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Even though I think we actually all agree, let me illustrate my point. This is NewPipe, actually a very nice FLOSS YouTube client (available on F-Droid) : Beautiful, isn't it? Now, let's flip out the Pro1's hardware keyboard, forcing the app into landscape, and look at this tragedy: Literally one third of the screen is occupied by ... a rectangular red bar?! The amount of information displayed on screen is less than 40% of what you see in portrait mode. When browsing through content, you can't do long, efficient strokes with your finger, but have to perform many smal

Good point guys, that I hadn't thought of. Of course these foldables are still quite uncommon. But if prices drop at some point ... maybe this is the closest to a pocket computer we will have ...

Maybe... it was a special area even when Moto Mod has appeared and still there is demand but very small compared to the phone market. However, there are tablets which may also have lower demand today, but current hype of foldable phones also contain a not always portrait use scenario. In my first few days with the Honor Magic V2 foldable I've got a hint of an impression that this new phone type may have become a new incentive for app developers to care more for non-portrait orientation use of their apps, even if it's just square-ish, which could, best case, also help landscape or

Edit: I started this before Eske's post, got interrupted, but will post anyway. :D Strangely, this is not my experience. It may be what I do on my Pro and Pro1x. Mostly I work with text-- writing and editing, I browse the web (research while writing, a lot of forums, and such), do email, notes of various sorts for writing, and calendaring, scheduling. Keeping my display size at the smallest setting (font size one click bigger), which my 71 year old eyes have not trouble with, I find almost no app that doesn't do well in Landscape. I have a third party app to force a fixed rotation.

My Primary use of a phone is SMS, and the secondary email, and the third web-browsing. All of which benefits from a keyboard in the right direction. But I certainly agree that many many app-developers are too sloppy (or too incompetent?) to bother about landscape. And this even goes for the most basic stuff from Google like Settings or their Android Market app. But until my eyes move to be in parallel with my spine, I'll prefer landscape....

Right, especially if OS manufacturer wants to make it more complicated and wants to earn money on this area. Right, that makes developing an accessory much easier. However, although I hate Android, I will never buy an iPhone to have an even more restricted environment. Maybe... it was a special area even when Moto Mod has appeared and still there is demand but very small compared to the phone market. However, there are tablets which may also have lower demand today, but current hype of foldable phones also contain a not always portrait use scenario.

In a sense, they return to their roots by making a keyboard accessory for a phone. In the light of the not-all-that-positive experience they've made as a full phone manufacturer, this must seem like the reasonable move for them to do. One of the things that the Pro1//Pro1X story has shown is that OS development and -- more importantly -- continued maintenance of that OS seems to be nearly impossible for a small-volume company. In that view it makes sense that they now restrict themselves to addon keyboards again. Also, targeting the iPhones makes a lot of sense (even though I am no Apple

I completely agree. The communication thought .... What I mean is, it feels strange, that they just founded the next keyboard phone company (the apple thing). I do know, that this has reasons, but the feeling is bad. An open explanation would help. However, I don't hold any grudge with everything regarding the pro1x. It was an IGG... money spent on IGG is paid for a dream, it is pure luck if it comes true.

Without having closed-source parts of Pro1's kernel, I doubt it is possible... I think it is hard-wired close to SoC part which are not accessible as far as I saw.

Nice find. Unfortunately the seller does not offer shipping to my region, I contacted him nevertheless if there is an option, i'll edit this post when I receive an answer.

That is a very mild wording. They got swindled. They paid and the company neither delivered the chips nor their money back. And as this was the company that had most of the blueprints of the Pro1, it meant that FxTec had to start over. They could have just folded after that, and said that our money was lost, but idealists as they are, they tried to recreate a new phone in the same form factor from the money left. Actually they deserve praise for attempting that. For the Pro1, Chen was very often in China to get things going as planned, as "remote" does not work well with China,

As far as I remember well, there were a lot of complains also the very beginning of Pro1 release about green tint issues while some of the users are hardly noticed the issue. Maybe that was the case also with pre-production devices used for main development. Anyway, I had one but only one screen which had blueish tint issue. What I think (but I am unsure because the way of brightness control is unknown for me) is the display has a very large deviation what would mean it should has been replaced by another manufacturer, but late in time if it would mean a redesign then it would mean

It has a heavily-scratched back (not affecting functionality) and had a non-working main camera upon arrival (as advertised). The latter was easily fixed by re-seating the camera connector onto the mainboard. However, also the camera module itself seems to have the focussing issue discussed here years ago, so I replaced it with the one from my original Pro1. On the positive side, the device's keyboard and battery are in much better shape than those of my original Pro1 after 4 years. I paid 474 €. Not directly a bargain, but much better-invested money compared to my Pro1-X purchase from Ex

Later keyboard driver patches in Lineage suppressed unwanted multiple strokes that may originate from the hardware problems you describe. I backported those fixes to my ROM and they work. They do nothing with respect to some keys NOT reacting to a press sometimes, though. All the technical information you provide is certainly interesting. But, from a customer perspective, I would have expected miscalibrated screens to just be sorted out during assembly of the phone. This obviously wasn't done.

May I ask you the price you had to pay and the problem it had? It would be good to get some hardware...

My Pro1 has also started doing this - not too bad but problem exists. However, if I remember well, later keyboard driver has tried to address this issue to reduce the effect what comes to this result. It is because of reduced connection quality at buttons which causes different bouncing just like how older mechanical rotary encoders develops the same problem what can be addressed in hardware using a small capacitor and also in software tricks - these are mostly used together, none of them are perfect without the other. Pro1's keyboard hardware is as simple as possible, there are n

Regularly check Ebay et al. for a second hand -- even partly damaged -- Pro1, and do not hesitate to buy as soon as one pops up. I've done so recently, to get a spare for my original Pro1 I got from f(x)tec 4 years ago. By picking the best parts from the two, I was able to assemble my very own "Super-Prawn" that looks and works better than my original one did even when brand-new. My Pro1-X cannot compete, even after months of trying to make it a viable successor, and is now shelved again. Probably forever.

It seems that you can buy replacement screen with the frame from AliExpress. - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005062900944.html Just note that it does not include the front camera module and the board for the connector. So it is missing the piece that is going to be taken apart with tweezers in the picture below.

Well, nowhere 🙄

Where keyboard overlay and the botton of a case can be bought?

I have a spare battery, usb connector, display from ali express, QWERTY keyboard overlay and the botton of a case. A new camera module is the only one which I must change till now

Now that I own two Pro1s, I feel like I'm in a better position to judge whether some problems are by design, in software, or just due to missing QA. Examples: Keyboard: The one of my original Pro1 was slowly starting to fail, with some keys being detected only on the second or third press. Some loyal F(x)tec advocates got close to get me believe the keyboard issues were induced by my self-built Lineage-16 ROM. Guess what: After migrating my identical setup to the other (similarly old) hardware things just work again. -> QA all along! Camera: After moving to that newly-purchas

Right, some of them had more or less keyboard rattling issues which is a QA issue. About design flaws, one of them was the interchanged wiring of its speakers which was "corrected" in kernel but it has also resulted handsfree problems (system use the original what results to be the opposite speaker for handsfree mode), also it aggressively applies noise reduction every time the microphone is in use, so it is impossible to record videos with correct sound. This flaw could be corrected if they had the actual source of Pro1-related kernel code but apparently not even F(x)tec had it and the

Hopefully these spare parts are enough if I need to make some repairs to my Pro1. I have already changed the usb board once so the current spare board is actually only partially working unit (it charges but without fast charge and HDMI out put does not work). Usb board, battery and stickers are from F(x)tec and screen panel from AliExpress (Elephone U Pro). SIM card tray is taken from broken Pro1...

I also noticed that it repeatedly awakes the screen. I do not know if that is due to an app trying to (re)connect via bluetooth to a watch I'm testing. (both on the table, less than 50cm apart)