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1 hour ago, EskeRahn said:
I guess it is a matter of keeping the options down, perhaps the idea is more along the line with what AICP would include.
Right and I understand there are only a few phones exist with keyboard support, but that is not a negligible request...
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7 hours ago, Sean McCreary said:
disables the "press twice to lock" feature. You can still press just one key at a time, but you'll need to press Shift/Alt/AltGr before every key you want to modify. Note that Caps Lock is available if you want more than one capital letter in a row. I hope this small change is a compromise everyone can accept.
If I understand well, that is a really good solution as sticky shift caused troubles for me but not when it was sticky for only one character. Thanks.
7 hours ago, Sean McCreary said:Early feedback on my patch to make the keyboard type configurable from Settings has been negative, suggesting it would be unlikely to appear in official builds of LineageOS.
I wonder why.
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43 minutes ago, claude0001 said:
In my view, "paying" for some good without ever receiving that same good is not "purchasing". I think F(x)tec would agree to that.
I don't know how phone manufacturing works as a small company, so if you only have an option to be in contract with a company to do the full manufacturing (even Covid may reduced other possibilities), but if we are speaking of much smaller part of the whole, PCB manufacturing and assembly (which may also be separated to only PCB manufacturing, then only assembly), that works a bit differently...
...so, these companies may have an option to pre-order necessary components, which they will use for manufacturing... or a bigger company who does full manufacturing may have an option to pre-order (and pre-pay) necessary components, so when manufacturing starts, they are available.
Usually it does not work a way I order components to my home, then I will send them to manufacturer when manufacturing starts... especially not when I am in Europe and manufacturing is in Chinese - postage is relatively slow, TAX-handling may appear in both directions and components may get damage. It rather works in a way I tell them to order these components from wholesaler companies prior assembly.
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2 hours ago, xhajt03 said:
I may be wrong, but my understanding is that the funding has been needed also due to the new CPU requiring changes in the codebase
Absolutely wrong.
Funding was basically needed for further manufacturing of Pro1...
...slight modification is one thing, but that was only included some change in BOM list and nothing else, so nothing what needs PCB design, certification, external testings, SoC-related developments, anything.SoC change became a problem long after Pro1-X campaign was started.
So Pro1-X was intended to earn some money of the project but financially became a close-to null-profit or even a loss project... so it is a really sad story.
Maybe if software could be improved, they may continue manufacturing and earn some real profit, but it is not possible without stable hardware and software...
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11 hours ago, EskeRahn said:
How they managed to ship it I do not know, My GUESS is it is/was easier for a Chinese company to ship out, than for foreign companies? But just my guess. Also remember that personal contacts is very important for Chinese deals to go forward, and as people was prohibited from going in from abroad, neither FxTec nor Planet could meet in person.
Right, that was one very important part of the story.
Another point was timing (I don't know if Unihertz had better luck regarding this)...
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4 minutes ago, Sean McCreary said:
It supports remapping the yellow arrow keys to any Linux key event code, but doing so prevents them from triggering the alternate keymap in the kernel. You can remap them both to AltGr and just ignore the kernel 'keymap shift' feature entirely. In fact, I used this feature to add the layout mod that makes the left yellow arrow key AltGr without requiring a custom keymap:
If I remember well, I had a problem of remapping it as FN key like it was in stock Android but I have not checked actual keyboard driver's functionality or source code.
Sorry if I am a bit unclear, I have just arrived home and it is nearly 3AM and left home a bit after 7AM in connection with a project coming deadline.I hope I will have a bit more time to check it and also some time for Pro1X... a bit later...
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2 hours ago, FlyingAntero said:
There are at least 2 reports in this thread from UK (EE and O2). EE uses heavily 1800Mhz but O2 mostly 800Mhz (LTE). EE user said that cannot make calls but O2 users reported that there are issues when receiving calls. But since we don't what bands are actually used, we can only make guesses.
When I have first tried the phone, as far as I remember well, I had a Telekom Hungary card inserted.
I had both problems - problem on receiving and initiating calls, but first call worked after restart (maybe modem standby issue).I haven't checked it since a while and currently it also has a Telenor Hungary card inserted which also had similar problem but in dual-SIM configuration.
I may also check it using Telekom/Telenor/Vodafone Hungary if that matters (in one-SIM configuration) but as far as I remember well, they use similar frequency bands.
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Here is the latest update from F(x)tec:
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by FX TechnologyJan 16, 2023 • 12:30PM2 hours agoPro1-X - January UpdateHappy New Year Pro1-X backers!
Firstly, we would like to start by thanking you all for your continued support and patience. We hope everyone had a lovely holiday last month.
Shipping updates:
We are now resuming shipments for the Pro1-X! As mentioned in our last update, we will be shipping units in small numbers first due to logistical issues affecting mass shipments in China and Hong Kong. Please note, as Chinese New Year is just around the corner, we expect shipments to be halted/delayed during this period. For backers who will receive tracking information just before the holiday, please keep a close eye on your shipment and contact the courier if it’s delayed.
OS Developments:
Our development team is working hard on the high-priority issues in our stock OS addressed in the previous update. Unfortunately, we don’t have a concrete update for you all just yet, but will continue to push forward as we understand it is affecting UX.
The community developers for Ubuntu Touch OS and LineageOS on the other hand have made some exciting progress in the last month. Ubuntu Touch OS for Pro1-X have now got stable OTA channels on UBPorts and will follow Ubuntu Touch release cycles. The community developers are also preparing the configurations for UBPorts Installer which will aid the installation process.
LineageOS 20 is now able to boot up on a Pro1-X with Android 13! A big thank you to all the community developers who made this happen! With this milestone achieved, they will move forward to fine-tuning and testing the software in the coming months. We’re pleased to share some photos of LineageOS on the Pro1-X:
Don't forget to share your Pro1-X pics with us as they start to arrive, and tag us (@thefxtec) so that we can see them!
Feel free to reach us at info at fxtec.com for any additional questions related to your order, shipping, delivery, or technical support.
Thank you again for your commitment and patience!
Team Fxtec 🙂
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44 minutes ago, Casey said:
It's very hard to reproduce on our side (UK/China), all RMA'd devices we receive have no problems with our SIM... The cell connectivity/GPS appears to be more based in the US region.
I have a Pro1 as daily driver but I have also received my Pro1X as an IGG backer.
When I have tried Pro1X, I also had issues initiating call and also accepting call - sometimes it worked but mostly does not.I am in the EU / Hungary and tested using Telekom service provider - I may also test is using another service provider but I have also thought it is a very common problem as I read a lot about it here.
So it is not limited to US region but also happen in Europe, maybe related to specific bands.
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17 minutes ago, Hook said:
without a headset, calls were almost as loud as a speaker phone so there was little privacy
It was an initial problem which was improved in later firmware.
Maybe LineageOS has also improved it a bit or at least now I don't have this problem.20 minutes ago, Hook said:and the fact that for some reason it would not use the car speakers/microphone when connected to BT so I couldn't get hands free.
Fortunately, I don't have problems with my car BT handsfree but there may be difference regarding protocols.
Anyway, it also works together using standalone Bluetooth handsfree unit and I have also tried it using Samsung Gear S3 Frontier where handsfree mode worked.Maybe you ran into a compatibility issue...
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5 hours ago, Hook said:
Well, TBH, the Pro1 wasn't a truly great phone, which is why I stopped trying to use it as one, and they made Lineage for it anyway. I suppose, from what people are saying, the Pro1x is worse (although whatever the problem, it wasn't picked up by the beta testers). I don't know since I don't have one. However, since I have no real plans to use my Pro1x as a phone, I really hope they push ahead with a version of Lineage for it and make phone/modem/whatever fixes later. Selfish, yes I know. 😉
I think most of your problems with Pro1 were caused by the fact you live in the USA and telephony systems generally work a bit different way there.
I am using my Pro1 as a daily driver together with LineageOS and it works well for me.
However, network coverage is relatively good here.Network coverage is basically in par with my Motorola G6 (which was my previous phone), however, that also could has been a bit better... but nothing huge problems for me.
WiFi works well but it is true it sometimes drops connection then reconnects...
LTE works well, GPS works well (much better than it was in my Moto G6), bluetooth works well.Regarding telephony, sometimes I had complains about silent voice and I have a friend whose phone has a lot of noise while speaking with me but not by using another phone at his side or at my side. As a comparison, there is no noise at all speaking with either of his phones and Pro1X - I think it is something to do with communication protocols somewhere.
I don't really have experience with Pro1X as usually it does not accept calls and usually it also can not initiate calls...
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57 minutes ago, claude0001 said:
If the Pro1-X's connectivity problems are indeed related to the modem driver, we'll just have to wait until F(x)tec pump out a new stock to base on. If the issues are hardware-related, the device is practically DOA for many users anyway ...
Yes, that is the question.
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3 hours ago, EskeRahn said:
Please note that drivers also matters. It is a puzzle really to get things working, we have other threads on it in here...
Right, under Windows, drivers can cause a lot of troubles and "plug and play" driver installation may also cause issues.
However, if I understood well, @Milky_Pimmshas tried it under Linux where driver-related problems do not apply.
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4 minutes ago, Milky_Pimms said:
The only USB Bus which is not shared is (Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub and Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub ) As well lsusb is not telling the truth. The ports are USB 3.2 Gen 2, AMD's broken thunderbolt.
I think if you unplug your keyboard and mouse, you will have a completely free USB2 line.
You may plug them into another USB ports but then check it again if they really connected to another bus so that connector is not also connected to BUS 005....then you may try to connect your phone to the USB connector where your keyboard or mouse is currently connected.
It worth a try.
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7 minutes ago, claude0001 said:
Frankly, this is a nightmare! I have now serious doubts that the Pro1-X will ever be able to replace my (835)Pro1.
For me, I had call initiating/receiving problem from the very first time I have turned it on.
(Basially it worked mostly once after restart...)
However, I had a feeling it is a modem problem and not necessarily reception, so I am waiting for a software upgrade which potentially improving very bad modem problems - and I hope updating its firmware is possible...I did not have enough time to follow its progress anyway but I hope they will find a solution.
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2 hours ago, Milky_Pimms said:
I had so many problem due to hardware. Please list hardware that works to save pain
ROG STRIX B550-I O/S Fedora 37, BIOS USB flashback port (use sudo for fastboot)
Basically there are more USB connections on a PC than physical USB endpoints at hardware side.
So there are internal HUBs connected and also there are usually internal USB hardware in the machine which are also connected somewhere.So more USB devices share the same bus.
These USB devices are communicating with PC, so they may generate interrupts, so hardware is also handling their communication while the flashing method needs strict timing, so that may result the process does not arrive in time for data sending.
That is the background.
Usually there is at least one USB connector on a PC which does not share (or share less) devices, but it is not necessarily true.
So you may check all of the USB ports on your hardware while trying to minimize your externally connected USB devices - it may help.Under Linux, basically lsusb helps.
You may find your root HUBs sitting on a "BUS" (lsusb | grep root), then you may find devices connected to a specific bus.
Try to connect the phone to a bus which does not have other devices connected or to a bus which has the least devices connected.
It will help. 🙂You may try it using any devices which you can identify to find the root HUB which will only has that device connected - if you can reach that state, then firmware update should work... and connect that phone to that USB connector.
Be aware that more external connectors may share the very same root HUB, that case plug your mouse/keyboard or other devices to a different USB port which connects to a different root HUB... or simply leave some devices (like printer, USB camera, etc) unplugged while updating your phone.-
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17 hours ago, RobinRamirez said:
I think when playing games, Pro1x seems to be better. Performance and graphics are both outstanding. I have tested on both machines and I highly recommend Pro1x
Compared using their stock systems?
Pro1 runs much smoother using LineageOS, however, Pro1X may also have some benefit of LineageOS once it becomes fully functional.
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5 hours ago, EskeRahn said:
I certainly hope so - or that they got the 'drawings' so that they can have them produced. It is very likely that most of us at some point will need it for our Pro1. That is unless there will be a successor we will buy and use instead.
Right. The one what I have received for replacement seemed to be a part of a faulty or "used for spare" Pro1.
(It had some missing ground springs but otherwise was in good condition.)For manufacturing, basially they need gerber files (for PCB manufacturing), BOM ("bill of materials", basically parts and parts to designator list) and Pick&Place File (basically parts designator positions), latter files for soldering components.
These are the necessary parts for manufacturing, and naturally components are also need to be available.If above files are not available (and also CAD files are missing which could be used to generate CAM / manufacturing files) then dimensions / positions and pinouts needed and a complete redesign of that panel... much easier than a whole motherboard redesign but still needs effort.
I really hope they have necessary manufacturing files and parts are still available.
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10 minutes ago, EskeRahn said:
Odd that they did not have those as a spare part on IGG.
Be aware that that the port is NOT at the same position in the frame for pro1 and proX (sits higher on the X), so MIGHT be different pcb as well.
As far as I know, that PCB is different - at least they wrote in one of their update that they had to redesign that PCB as part of the radio problems they ran into, and also it looks different based on FCC photos.
Anyway, potential problems with USB port were the reason they moved the connector to a different panel, so it would be very welcome to take advantage of that... I hope it will be available soon for purchase as a not expensive product.
I really hope they have the manufacturing data for that board of Pro1...
I would buy some of them for a reasonable price.
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41 minutes ago, Tim6263 said:
Has anyone else had this issue with a Pro 1-X please? As soon as it connects to WiFi, the cell network no longer finds my phone; instead, a caller hears, "it is not possible to connect your call, please try later". I have to turn WiFi off in order to accept incoming calls.
Is there anything in settings to look for maybe, hopefully...?
Many thanks if anyone can help...!
I don't know if it could be related, but is there a way for you to try turning off VoWiFi?
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2 hours ago, Bob78 said:
Bit more on mine It has now got to the point that it will only charge under plug tension. in other words I have to place a weight on the charge cable and pull the phone away against the weight .It then charges quite reliably. No way to work long term any cure spring to mind ? It has to be a phisical fault.
Unfortunately, it has started the same way for me (prior to this point, it could charge relatively reliably only at one direction of Type-C connection).
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3 hours ago, Rob. S. said:
Any ideas?
If I remember well, it worked after I have allowed ADB connection of my PC (there is a notification appears with a "MAC-address" where you can tick to remember).
I don't know if fastboot has anything to do with ADB but I could enable offline charging of my Pro1X afterwards.
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3 hours ago, EskeRahn said:
Well the Pro1 has 128MB, and the Pro1X exists in 256 and 128MB variants. But I do not think that we can assume that it is the same pin-out. As the whole pcb has been changed for the new chipset for the pro1X, they might have chosen a different UFS chip.
Right, Pro1 had the option of 256GB version but was never available and they wanted to offer also 256GB variant for Pro1X - however, there is no official information if they kept the same pinout for Pro1X after PCB redesign.
So right, that is still a question.
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1 hour ago, ScarFez said:
Where can i find the details for that chip so i can find the pin-out ? For the Pro1X with 256 GB storage
I don't know but as far as I know, it is the same as in Pro1 - if that helps a bit. 🙂
Happy New Year for all! :)
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