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Posts posted by claude0001

  1. On 3/8/2022 at 2:55 PM, archseraphim said:

    [...] the device did experience a drop several months beforehand which was severe enough to break the screen, and that I replaced the screen myself. [...]

    I'm not downplaying the known bad communication skills of F(x)tec, but this fact alone would have led other manufacturers to say: "Well you broke it, and, after that, you probably made things worse by exchanging parts yourself. Our <shiny-new-successor-product> is superior to your broken phone anyway, consider buying that as a replacement. Otherwise, please don't bother us anymore."

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  2. 4 hours ago, daniel.schaaaf said:

    And, this build got rid of the Bluetooth file transfer MIME type restriction.

    Interesting. I wasn't aware there were file types one could not send via bluetooth. But you are right: shell scripts are not accepted for me either. Not that I use BT file transfer much (ssh rules!), but I might still include this in my next ROM, too. Thanks for sharing.

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  3. 6 hours ago, Rob. S. said:

    I can finally clear this up!

    Thanks for sharing. Few would think about the SD card being the reason for the long boot time.

    Good luck with your next card. I've had a Sandisk Extreme 256 GB almost since day one. I run my GNU/Linux chroot on it (which certainly causes above-average disk-I/O) and it still hasn't failed me.

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  4. 22 minutes ago, steff said:

    I wonder if  the ubports development will be affected in a positive way by the added support to the 5.16 linux kernel.

    No, I think it won't.

    UbuntuTouch for the Pro1 (and for the Pro1-X, as far as I know) is a hybris port, meaning it does not actually use it own Linux kernel. It re-uses the kernel of the original AndroidOS that came with the device (together with other core parts of Android).

    That basic support for the Pro1 is in mainline now, is certainly a good thing in itself. But right now it allows not much more than booting to a terminal. There is no support for any advanced hardware that one needs for the device to fulifil its purpose as a phone. It may be an interesting starting point for new applications of the Pro1, but using this as a new basis for UbuntuTouch would be a serious set-back for that project.

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  5. In LineageOS 16.0 this works: long-pressing any accentable character on the hardware keyboard (e.g. 'a') brings up a selector box allowing you to pick any accented variant ('à', 'á', 'â', 'ä', ...) using the touchscreen. The box looks a bit rustic, like using a design from previous Android versions, but it works. Not sure about the later Lineage versions 17.1 and 18.1.

    Note that this is for the original Pro1 only. We still know nothing about software for the new Pro1-X. The LineageOS ports for the Pro1 will no longer work because of the different SoC. A new port will be necessary and probably be based on some other, already existing snapdragon-662 device. But the keyboard driver of the Pro1 is open-source, and, I guess, the keyboard hardware has not changed. So maybe those bits can be re-used.

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  6. 1 hour ago, VaZso said:

    However, I don't know why there are a plenty of capture / playback devices there

    Indeed. I cannot use any of the standard ALSA tools like aplay for doing anything with these devices. I am testing from a rooted GNU/Linux chroot.

    In contrast, if I connect a standard USB sound device, I can control it normally via ALSA. So I assume that proprietary driver is just behaving differently.

    Edit: Better be careful when messing with the sound interfaces directly. I remember that, on the N900, one could break the internal speakers that way (as one was able  to bypass some software filters in the driver, I think).

  7. On 6/22/2021 at 8:15 PM, claude0001 said:

    I uploaded my latest Lineage 16.0 build, dated 20220225.

    • It includes the February 2022 fixes from the 2022-02-05 Android Security Bulletin. These fixes are now backported to Lineage 16.0 by the good people at lineageos.org, as AOSP does not officially support Pie anymore. I bumped the Android security string to reflect this.
    • New local mods since the last release: Backported some CPU and GPU (surfaceflinger) optimizations that, while initially proposed against 16.0, were merged only in 17.1.
    • My full local patchset with respect to the upstream lineage-16.0-branch can be downloaded at the link above. 

    Have fun.

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  8. 4 hours ago, adam.c.r.roman said:

    Can we get this driver in the stock OS from f(x)tec?

    I guess, the simple answer to this is (and has been for a while): No.

    The official Android 9 for the Pro1 is dead. I do not expect that there will be any more fixes from F(x)tec.

    Although the stock keyboard driver is open-sourced, producing a fixed driver and installing it in the stock ROM in binary form is probably not possible because of code signing. I am no expert on this though.

    The pragmatic way of getting better keyboard support would be to simply install a recent LineageOS release, which improved on the duplicate-stroke issue (besides many more enhancements). The relevant patches are here and here. Note that the keyboard driver (the qx1000.c source against which the patches are applied) was completely rewritten by @tdm as part of the initial port to Lineage OS 16.0, so these patches would probably not apply directly to the Stock sources.

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  9. We do not know anything about the status of OS development for the (future) Pro1-X.

    What we do ḱnow is that UbuntuTouch on the original (835)  Pro1 is falling behind LineageOS by many orders of magnitude. LineageOS outclasses even the official Android 9 OS that came with the device, while UbuntuTouch -- unfortunately -- lacks some of the most basic functionality even two years into development

    The reason for this is that F(x)tec officially support neither of those OSes for the original Pro1, but, because of the much larger community, LineageOS has much more traction. Hopefully the situation will be different for the Pro1-X.

    The way you ask your question however makes me suspicious about whether you truly understand what UbuntuTouch is. UbuntuTouch is not comparable to the Ubuntu Linux distribution for PCs. It is a smartphone system quite similar to Android. In fact, it even does not use a Linux kernel from Ubuntu, but rather that of the Android OS that initially shipped with the device! With UbuntuTouch, you shouldn't expect to to use standard Unix software out-of-the-box, nor should you believe you can use apt for managing your software, or be able to use traditional Unix paradigms in your daily workflow. Are you aware of that? In what sense do you expect UbuntuTouch to be more "Linux" than LineageOS?   

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  10. 10 hours ago, Doktor Oswaldo said:

    But it is stupid, I would say LOS is at least on pair with a Android FxTec patched together.

    I'm using Lineage myself and completely agree on that point.

    However, also @EskeRahn is right in that "certification" of a software does not necessarily mean that the software in question is technically superior to any other. It just guarantees that it fulfills the requirements of a certain defined standard in terms of configuration and behaviour. 

    Technically, my self-built LineageOS 16.0 is, both, more capable and more secure than Stock Android 9: unlike the latter, it contains the latest security patches and the many feature enhancements implemented by the LOS community and myself. However, without code-review, no-one can guarantee that I did not modifiy critical parts of the base AOSP system in a way they simply do not qualify as "Android" anymore, or that I did not include backdoors, malware, or other evil-cracker stuff at compile time. Hence my ROM cannot (and should not) be considered a certified Android 9. 

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  11. 8 hours ago, MickH said:

    EDIT: Oh and one other thing Musicolet works great in landscape with some support for the keys e.g. Navigate around the screen with arrow keys and space or return activates the selected control.

    I'm using Vanilla from F-Droid. It can also use the keyboard to navigate around the controls and has a two-column landscape mode. Thought that was pretty standard. And no in-app purchases (as expected from F-Droid software).

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  12. 1 hour ago, PC_ said:

    Does anyone know if F(x)Tec are ever planning to release v10 for the Pro1?

    I am pretty sure there will never be an official Android 10 or 11 for the original Pro1. All development efforts target the Pro1X by now.

    As @VaZso wrote, Lineage 17.1 and 18.1 are available for the Pro1, and are technically equivalent to Android 10 and 11. Lineage 19.0 is already in preparation. 

    However, I have doubts that your security auditors will consider a custom ROM as equivalent to an official Android provided by the device manufacturer when it comes to certifications.

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  13. My thoughts on this (more or less unchanged since that other thread on the AstroSlide): The two devices are complementary.

    For me the AstroSlide is -- unfortunately -- too large. Imho, today's smartphones cannot practically be larger than the span of a person's thumb.

    The Pro1/X is really the largest device I could operate single-handedly in what is today's de-facto standard mode: portrait-touchscreen-only. The AstroSlide is significantly bigger, so I expect I would not be able to use it comfortably as a regular smartphone when holding it in one hand. This may seem like a small thing at first, but can become quite a nuisance in practical life if you intend to use your phone not only as a UMPC but also in the way 99.9% of modern apps assume.

    I do like the basic idea behind the AstroSlide: be a UMPC that is really able to emulate a phablet with keyboard closed. Unfortunately I do not believe it works in practice because of the size dictated by the (nice!) keyboard. 

    The Pro1(X) focuses on working well as a standard (touchscreen) smart phone and adds the hw keyboard as a bonus. The Astro is the opposite. It seeks to be a good UMPC primarily, with the added capability to disguise as a phone. For me the former is the right choice: whenever I expect the need to perform extensive typing on-the-go, I carry along my UltraBook anyway, which -- with all love due -- is superior to the Astro in every respect ... except in being a phone.

    That said: everyone who likes it, please buy and support the AstroSlide! The true problem we face is not competition by some other niche keyboard phone manufacturer, but the prevalent perception of smartphones as dumb(ed-down) consumer appliances rather than the full computer systems they really are.

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  14. 47 minutes ago, wrc08 said:

    The version is 16.0-20201019-NIGHTLY-pro1.

    That's the last official build that was made at lineageos.org. I am using my own builds since then but have never changed anything on the recovery system. So I think the keyboard should work in your version, too.

    Concerning transfer of your apps and settings I do not know. There are backup solutions that are supposed to be able to do that, but I have never used any of those.

  15. @Fxtecish Thanks for your compassionate words regarding F(x)tec's situation. Indeed, people tend to forget that what F(x)tec are doing is deemed unreasonable by all of the big phone manufacturers (as it supposedly does not pay off): make a keyboard phone for the few people out there that really want to use their device as the mobile computer it is.

    Off-topic: I do not get why you engage in refurbishing N900's in 2022. Do not get me wrong: I own two N900's and love everything about them. But I really think their time is over. Their CPU is too slow and their RAM too small for participating in today's Internet. 3G being shut down around the planet is the final nail in the coffin for me. What future do you see for that device?

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  16. Just as a last resort: What version of LineageOS 16.0 are you using, exactly? Go to "Settings -> About Phone -> Android Version 9": that will show the "LineageOS version" string. If it is a really early release, one could check if keyboard support in recovery was added only later during development ... I wouldn't count on it though.

    28 minutes ago, wrc08 said:

    What if I by a new Pro1...?.

    Unfortunately, there are no new Pro1s to buy. The Pro1X is a completely different phone, so it will not be possible to transfer your LOS 16.0 to it.

    I would contact F(x)tec and try to send them the phone for repair. Despite all the bad experience regarding their responsiveness reported here, there are people who have had their phone repaired without any trouble.

    Alternatively, you could open-up your Pro1 and look for the connection. But as far as I understand the guide, the process involves a hot air gun and and almost complete disassembly of the bottom part of the phone. I am not sure if I would try it myself.

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  17. 1 hour ago, wrc08 said:

    You mean the recovery mode with "volume- button" and "power button" at the same time?

    Yes that's what I mean.

    "Volume Up+Power" boots to the Lineage recovery system (which you used for flashing Lineage initially).

    Not to be confused with "Volume Down+Power" which takes you to the bootloader (which does not have keyboard support).

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  18. 16 hours ago, wrc08 said:

    1. I can determine if there is a hardware or software failure in the physical keyboard

    Actually, I just thought of a more simple test for this.

    I realised that the Lineage (16.0) recovery system supports the Pro1's hardware keyboard: when I boot into recovery, I can navigate through its menu using the up/down-arrow, return, and backspace keys on the keyboard.

    Could you check if this works on your phone? If yes, this would clearly demonstrate that the keyboard itself is fine. If not, I think it would be strong indication of a hardware failure and your chances of fixing things by reinstalling the system would be slim ...

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  19. Concerning:

    15 hours ago, wrc08 said:

    2. I reinstall LineageOS, either the 16 again or the 18, probably doesn't matter

    As you mentioned earlier, your present system is rooted.

    It might thus be of interest to you that LineageOS 16.0 was the last major release with built-in root management ("AddonSU").

    Starting from 17.1 you have to use Magisk for rooting, which I am sure will work, but may require to do differently whatever you are using your root access for.

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  20. @VaZso : UbuntuTouch on the Pro1(X) is not about vanilla Linux support (mainlining). Ubuntu on Pro1 and Pro1X uses / will use libhybris, which does make porting easier. Still it takes a lot of polishing to get a port to a state where it can be useful to average Joe as a phone. Look at that thread I linked above: the UbuntuTouch port for Pro1 does not provide the most basic functionality you expect from a smartphone: GPS, cellular internet either do not work at all, or not out-of-the box. HDMI out is not there (which is huge, as many want Ubuntu for the "convergence" thing). When such bugs are still present two years after the device hit the marked, it is pretty clear that the community is not able to fix things on their own. Fact is, development of that port has stalled. The same will happen with Ubuntu on Pro1X if F(x)tec do not push the development themselves.    

    Of course, that same rom polishing is also necessary for any new Lineage release. But because of the much larger community, there is obviously more momentum in the development and bug fixing processes over there.

    I belive SailfishOS on the Pro1 is in much better shape than Ubuntu, actually. I tested a very early version, and only gave up on it because of reasons of App availability. From the point of view of OS architecture, yes, I think it is much closer to the N900. But we're drifting off-topic ...

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  21. 32 minutes ago, VaZso said:

    ... there would be people who don't really care the OS ...

    From an Android user perspective this may be true. Someone would eventually port LineageOS to the 662-Pro1, even if Fxtec would not support that process at all.

    But UbuntuTouch is a different story: F(x)tec themselves have stated (at some early stage of 662-Pro1 design) that the Ubuntu option was an important point for quite a few backers of the Pro1-X. So they'll have to have that OS available at some point. And, here, experience from the original Pro1 shows they cannot rely on the community to do the work for them: the UBPorts crowd is too small to support obscure devices on their own. As documented on this very forum, there is -- to this date -- no truly functional port for the 835-Pro1, and, sadly, probably never will be. 

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  22. 4 hours ago, VaZso said:

    personally I would be completely okay with that... moving to another OS on Pro1 is not hard at all, I hope it will be similar on Pro1X.

    I had Android 9 on my Pro1 for a total of 5 minutes, or so, before flashing LOS onto it. So, yes, I fully agree, personally.

    Problem is, they made a big deal about the "other OS" option being really official this time. If they fail to deliver in this respect, it will add-up to what is already an unfavorable picture at best.

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  23. In sharp contrast to when the original Pro1 was still in pre-production, whe have (to my knowledge at least) seen no enthusiastic demo videos of Pro1X's running an alternative OS so far. All there was, was a screenshot from the UbuntuTouch settings panel in the November update, along with the comment that porting of alternative OSes to the 662-Pro1 has "started".

    I thus expect LineageOS and UbuntuTouch development to be lagging behind at this point, which would explain why you were not offered the choice of the OS.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually shipped all devices with Android after all, providing downloads and support for users to flash Lineage or UBTouch themselves when those are ready ...

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  24. 32 minutes ago, wrc08 said:

    I've wiggled the ribbon cable between the screen and the keyboard before

    The ribbon cable that is exposed by the Pro1's mechanism connects just the screen unit to the mainboard. The mainboard is inside the bottom half of the phone which also holds the keyboard. So the connection you are interested in is not visible from outside.

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  25. 1 hour ago, wrc08 said:

    Under Settings--> System--> Language&Input under Physical Keyboard it says "not connected".

    For LOS 16.0, the usual string shown there was "Builtin Keyboard".

    I'd say, either the keyboard is indeed physically disconnected, or the system has been re-configured to default to some other hw keyboard. Did you ever use an external USB or Bluetooth keyboard in the past? If yes, what happens if you re-connect that?

    However, as your problem appeared kind of gradually, I rather fear that the keyboard is indeed not properly connected to the system board anymore. Maybe the ribbon cable connecting it to the board has loosened with time. There is a quite complete official disassembling guide for the Pro1 (links have been posted here several times). I have never disassembled mine until now, so I cannot judge how easy it is to check this. Others here have more experience.

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