[Selling Pro1or Pro1x. Please no requests for devices, only post if you have one to sell yourself.]

I am selling my pro1. See the other thread for details.

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[Anybody selling a qwertz fxtec pro]

I am selling my pro1. It is a qwertz device, not rooted. I used only stock android.

I always kept it in a protection sleeve (see picture).

I would send you the sleeve as well if interested. I have the original charger as well as a spare one if you are interested. I still have the original box.

You are buying here a tested device! Everything is working fine. No heating finger sensor, no problem with the battery. I did not have the ghost touch issue. I have been using the device since July 2020.

I never broke or replaced the screen. I have ordered a replacement screen with frame during the indigogo campaign (to be able to change it by myself without delay and hassle). If I ever receive it, it will part of the package.

To have a better grip, I added stickers on the sides of the phone (an excellent tip of @Hook). See pictures.

Please send me a private message if interested.

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[Pro¹ X – state of production and delivery]

3 hours ago, Rob. S. said:

There's of course a difference between mailings from sales which have to go to all customers and individual support requests, especially when the repair service is more or less nonexistent because they have not been getting any spare parts for many months anyway...

yes this is the exactly point I wanted to make. My question is not related to replacement parts, but is a software issue. It is sad, but under these conditions it is very unlikely I will buy product from them again.

[Pro¹ X – state of production and delivery]

On 5/24/2022 at 3:32 PM, Rob. S. said:

Here's the complete message:

So now the suspicion is confirmed that LineageOS (also Ubuntu Touch) isn't ready for the shipping of this batch. Sad, but good they let us change to Android, I've just sent the mail a minute ago!

EDIT: And the change has already been confirmed by Fxtec.

Interesting how fast they can reply in some cases....My customer request to FXtec from 13.04 about the security of the android on the Pro1 has not been replied.

[Lineage and Banking apps]

17 hours ago, daniel.schaaaf said:

You might want to get acquainted with XPrivacyLUA, which can restrict what information an app gets. E.g. my banking apps are not allowed to execute shell commands. When they ask "which su", XPL intercepts and replies "[empty]". This way the app does not know that it can't execute shell commands because it gets a valid reply from XPL, but the app won't see su either.

The "only" problem is that you need ... Magisk with Riru and EdExposed or LSPosed. Down the rabbit hole, never to see the light of day again. Magisk reached its EOL, Riru is a mess, and Android (including LOS!) is getting more and more restricted by Google.

Thanks. Definitely beyond the skills of an average user like me. I do not want to spend time learning and experimenting in this area.

[PRO1, No more System Updates]

I have just installed another android security update for my outdoor phone (a Cyrus from Feb 2020 running on android 9). I get these updates quarterly, although Cyrus is also a niche market phone.  So it seems possible.

I am still unclear what these security updates include. What security aspects are they improving? Should we be worried?

[PRO1, No more System Updates]

23 minutes ago, EskeRahn said:

But yes, certainly disappointing with the lack of updates.

Thanks. Yes the question for me is whether my personal data is at risk.

[Lineage and Banking apps]

It seems I have to give up stock android and move to lineage for security reason.

Before I do this, I wanted to ask the community about banking apps on lineage. Does it work? I understood we have to use magisk, but reading the forum, I see that users also have some difficulties make it work.

[PRO1, No more System Updates]

11 hours ago, VaZso said:

I would not say it is safe considering it is more than a year since it was updated...

Thanks for the answer. 

My experience with the android stock software was fine (with the workarounds suggested by the users, I could use the phone and the banking apps were working).

I am disappointed that there will be no update. I wrote to fxtec customer service to get official statement about android use and implications in terms of data safety (Does fxtec officially suggest to move away from android?).

[PRO1, No more System Updates]

Can I ask what are the implications for those using stock android on the pro1: Is it still safe in terms of data security? And if so for how long?

[Invoice capture with the pro1 camera works only with slider open (pro1 on stock android)]

I noticed the following: I manage to capture a written invoices with the pro1 camera only when the slider is open (scan). In other words, when the keyboard is closed, the camera does not manage to properly scan the invoice QR code and transmit the data to the banking app.

It is not a big deal because I just need to open the keyboard. However I am wondering why the camera works better when the slider is open???

 

And maybe this feedback is useful for someone else facing the issue.

 

 

[Pro1, Ghost touches and other digitizer and display issues]

4 hours ago, VaZso said:

think this issue is not as simple...

Thanks. Good to have finally narrowed down the problem. The question remains:

Many users face this issue. Does this fact have any impact on the guarantee period? We are not talking about a single defective screen here.

[Pro1, Ghost touches and other digitizer and display issues]

14 hours ago, dicer said:

My phone (December 2019) now also displays the ghost touch problems 😞 1.5 months out of warranty...

Based on this thread I understood that the cause of the problem is the quality of the screens supplied to Fxtec. I guess that Fxtec has taken actions against the supplier (to face the complaints).

Many users face this issue. Does this fact have any impact on the guarantee period? We are not talking about a single defective screen here.

[Pattern lock not working]

Maybe you connected a bluetooth mouse in the past with your phone. It should still work.

[Virtual keyboard when physical keyboard is in use (Solved, Swiftkey option)]

Thanks. I am on stock android. I do not experience the issue when selecting gboard instead of swiftkey. So it must be a swiftkey option to find. Good first narrow down.

I found the solution now.

Swiftkey app> Typing > physical keyboard >Automatically show / hide virtual keyboard must be deselected to avoid the problem I was describing.

[Fx Pro1 vs Samsung Z Fold 3]

 

Interestingly there are slight differences on how the apps are displayed between "virtual keyboard" and "hardware keyboard" (e.g. on the fold 3 deja office opens separate pop up to type in a field, whereas the pro1 types directly in the form).

 

I am not sure why. Maybe someone can explain.

But these slight differences were not an obstacle to usability and overview.

The larger screen of the fold 3 to read texts and watch videos are an important plus point.

Looking forward to seeing what fxtec has in the pipeline for its Pro2. In my view they should combine their hardware keyboard with a foldable screen.

[Fx Pro1 vs Samsung Z Fold 3]

On 12/24/2021 at 6:23 PM, lawliett said:

I just thought of a few more reasons why the z fold soft keyboard annoyed me.

6) There's no way to hold down a key to send multiple presses at once.

For example, I'm using evil in emacs and I'm trying to go down some text; I can hold down the j key on my desktop to go down multiple lines quickly. However, with a soft keyboard holding down a key doesn't work that way. A key press only registers once you let go of the key. The only thing you can do with a long press is pop up a different symbol to input. Thus, I have to repeatedly press the key to go down one line at a time. So it's just quite inconvenient.

7) Most soft keyboards are missing not only modifiers, but also many punctuation characters.

You can access them from the symbol menu or assign them to a character key and access with a long press. But it's more inconvenient. Especially when you use punctuation marks as part of your keybindings in emacs.

Thanks for the above. I agree with the limitations you listed. A member of my family acquired a fold3, so I have been testing it a bit. I also prefer the feel of the pro1 keyboard, but the keyboard of the fold3 is very good (using swiftkey, and using navigation gesture to create more space for the keyboard). I have been testing various apps (whatsapp, google calendar, sms, bluemail, dejaoffice) and I could do all the tasks easily on the fold3 virtual keyboard.

 

 

 

[Virtual keyboard when physical keyboard is in use (Solved, Swiftkey option)]

Everytime I start to type a sms or email, the  virtual keyboard pops up (although I have the slider open). The virtual keyboard disappears automatically if I start typing on the physical one.

Is there a way to avoid the virtual keyboard to pops up at all? I use swiftkey and finqwerty on stock android.

Under physical keyboard I have already deactivated the "keep it on screen while the physical keyboard is active"

[How soon should I expect to be delivered a Pro1-X?]

7 hours ago, Slion said:

I moved to Lineage OS 18.1 last summer and it's awesome but it takes skills and time to get it done the way you want. Though I would prefer an updated stock running the latest Android mostly because that means less work to maintain it. 

What were the main reasons for your change to Lineage? I understand it solves the "I cannot modify the call volume issue." I am interested since you gave a long try to the pro 1 with stock Android.

[Pro1, Ghost touches and other digitizer and display issues]

32 minutes ago, Chris2 said:

Hey guys,

unfortunately I am facing the ghost touching issues since two days making usage of the phone almost impossible. So I will contact the fxtec support. Does anybody know how to figure out if I still got warranty? I'm not sure if I have 1 or 2 years. There is no information on that on the invoice or in my account...

Given the number of such cases, it is clearly a flaw in one of the components of the device. I understand that fxtec is nicely providing replacement screen to all persons facing this issue,  who have requested one replacement screen. This shows one more time that they are a reliable company. If this does not happen this way, please let us know.

[Fx Pro1 vs Samsung Z Fold 3]

Thanks for sharing this.  Very interesting, in particular your typing experience with the fold3. I was not so sure about it. Interesting that the size of the screen is nearly the same when the virtual keyboard is on use on the fold3.

The price difference between the two devices is also considerable, fold 3 is nearly double where I am based.

Fold 3 has also s-pen capacity. 

[Apps that works great with a real keyboard and in landscape]

Dear Community

Do you know an android app "file manager" which works in split screen mode (like windows explorer)? You can cut a file in one window and paste it the other window?

It is possible to create different windows in the app "files", but it does not support cut and paste in different windows. I can only cut and move the file to the same window.

Edit: I have tried again with the app Fx: it works. I had not seen the option to split screen in my first attempt.

[Pro¹ X – state of production and delivery]

On 7/13/2021 at 6:00 PM, Hook said:

The Pro1 certainly won't be updated,

What is the source of the info? Did I miss any official communication on this?

[Fxtec Pro1 vs Samsung Z Fold2]

What is your typing experience on the Zfold? Price is also not the same...

[Pro1, Ghost touches and other digitizer and display issues]

1 hour ago, Hook said:

I suspect the parts are delayed because it is cheaper to order the parts when they are also ordering them for assembly of the Pro1xs at the factory... volume discount and all that.

I was hoping that the delivery date was automatically updated for all the perks, and that FxTec would clarify that the screen will be delivered in April or May nevertheless...

Unless I hear something different from them, I will go with your explanation: FxTec is keeping costs low.

We will see if I experience the problem as well....

In reply to @Rob. S.. Thanks. I respect your choices; myself I am not going to buy a heat gun now that I ordered a screen with frame. This is getting too complex for me. And I am not going to buy another phone to bridge the gap.  I would then totally switch to another model. I whish FxTec take actions to reduce replacement time to the minimum now that the problem is known and confirmed.