EskeRahn 4,513 Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago 5 minutes ago, toast said: It is a scandinavian layout. Sadly, I dont see a way of selling it unopened with a good conscience, seeing as people recieve Pro 1 X's with broken NFC, faulty speakers and even in the wrong color, appearantly.. Anyways, time will tell. Well IF your unit proves to have faults and you have sold it unopened, you could clearly say to be in good faith, and any complaints be between FxTec and the new owner. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hook 2,042 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 6 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Well IF your unit proves to have faults and you have sold it unopened, you could clearly say to be in good faith, and any complaints be between FxTec and the new owner. Yes, FxTec has always applied the warranty to the hardware, not the owner. They honor any warranty even if the unit has changed hands. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toast 53 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 5 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Well IF your unit proves to have faults and you have sold it unopened, you could clearly say to be in good faith, and any complaints be between FxTec and the new owner. That is clearly what I would tell the poor fellow who potentially bought it, but that would not mean I would have a good conscience about it. Anyways, we are getting a bit off topic, seeing as this thread is about progress in recieving a Pro 1 X, and in my case, there is absolutely no sign of progress at this point. Which should mean I have plenty of time to make up my mind 🙂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hook 2,042 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 18 minutes ago, toast said: It is a scandinavian layout. Sadly, I dont see a way of selling it unopened with a good conscience, seeing as people recieve Pro 1 X's with broken NFC, lousy Wifi/data reception, faulty speakers and even in the wrong color, appearantly.. Anyways, time will tell. One other thing on this before we go. We really need to wait until most people have these to determine scale. Remember that people mostly come to forums when they have problems, rarely to say "wow, this is great, I don't need any help." 😄 So seems awful early to be considering whether selling your unopened Pro1x is ethical or not. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,198 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, pontresburlet said: to bad the phone isn't blue....I don't even want to try and send it back so I can get the right one. Also, When I get my 2019 order which is supposed to come as a blue QWERTY 8/256 GB Pro¹X (no tracking confirmation yet; the 2020 order which *is* scheduled to arrive on Thursday is QWERTZ), I might be willing to swap, given it actually does come in blue. Edited 15 hours ago by Rob. S. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducksoup 14 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Just paid 24% VAT upon my Pro1-X's arrival in Finland. Edit: And tracking now shows customs release. Edited 5 hours ago by ducksoup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toast 53 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 32 minutes ago, ducksoup said: Just paid 24% VAT upon my Pro1-X's arrival in Finland. May I ask on what declared amount? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducksoup 14 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, toast said: May I ask on what declared amount? I self-declared 741€, the amount I paid F(x)tec, ergo 177,84€ VAT. Edited 3 hours ago by ducksoup Clarified that this was self-declared, not F(x)tec's declared amount 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aquaz 22 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) We have similar VAT rates, but with current exchange rates that's like half of what I've paid for the phone back in the day, OMFG 😐 Does anyone know if there's a way around this? Like if I'd show the customs how much I've actually paid for the product back in the day in my local currency they would deduct the tax based on that amount? Edited 3 hours ago by aquaz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducksoup 14 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, aquaz said: Does anyone know if there's a way around this? Like if I'd show the customs how much I've actually paid for the product back in the day in my local currency they would deduct the tax based on that amount? Can't speak for wherever you are, but here in Finland they are very clear about that: "In the case of customs declarations for release for free circulation, the conversion rates applied are those valid on the date when Customs accepts the customs declaration for the goods." So at least here, no, you can't get around that unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aquaz 22 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I guess it's the same thing in here, welp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 4,513 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago Over at IGG, "Buffer Bear" was charged "UK. Duty of £51.45" so it seems to vary quite a bit... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toast 53 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Over at IGG, "Buffer Bear" was charged "UK. Duty of £51.45" so it seems to vary quite a bit... I do not believe (without knowing for sure) that fxtec declares IGG perks at full market value, whereas @ducksoup declared it themselves at a full €741. This may be a part of the large difference? Edited 2 hours ago by toast fixed tag. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toast 53 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 hours ago, Hook said: One other thing on this before we go. We really need to wait until most people have these to determine scale. Remember that people mostly come to forums when they have problems, rarely to say "wow, this is great, I don't need any help." 😄 So seems awful early to be considering whether selling your unopened Pro1x is ethical or not. I see what youre getting at, and I would be willing to agree. Although, that depends on how you look at things, I suppose. The coin always has two sides (if you dont count it landing on the edge 🙂 ). One could also argue that its very worrying that so few devices made it into the wild yet, and already we have this small plethora of things that are wrong with the recievers' devices.. But as you said, time will tell if its common or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aquaz 22 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Our customs service usually don't care about the amount declared by the sender - that happens very rarely. Usually they ask the buyer for receipt/invoice and they calculate VAT tax based on the amounts there. Since I was in the super early bird perk or whatever its name was I've paid a bit more so.. FML 😛 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suicidal_orange 63 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, EskeRahn said: Over at IGG, "Buffer Bear" was charged "UK. Duty of £51.45" so it seems to vary quite a bit... Looks like $300 declared value (as mentioned previously) plus shipping at standard 20% VAT (no duty) - exactly what I would expect to see. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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