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  1. On 1/27/2020 at 7:16 PM, goodman_j said:

    So.. after the long wait, my wife and I finally got our stock assigned email on 01/20/2020.  That made us super excited.  Then we got the email for our order being completed for our phones (qty. 2 explicitly noted on email. yay!)  No tracking info but we didn't care.  We were just happy that they were on their way.  Checked mail today and found a nice little box waiting for us today.  I thought, "That looks like it only has one."  I shrugged it off, maybe it was really good packaging.  When I opened it, only found one but still didn't phase me.  Maybe they were split up by accident.  So we used the tracking number on the box and lo and behold, FEDEX said that it delivered everything for that tracking number.  Sad day.  I don't know where it all went sideways but it looks like second phone is not coming.  We emailed FxTec and hopefully they have a good answer. 

    I've seen the rants and raves of many irrate people on this forum and I was content to wait.  I am very disappointed but I understand things go wrong.  I hope FxTec irons their process out because it seems like everything that could possibly go wrong, does go wrong with them.  Hopefully they visit a temple this Lunar New Year and get some much needed good luck.  Such a sad day.



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  2. These are just reminders. Life is hectic after the Holidaze. Don't want anyone to miss a deadline inadvertently.

    Some dates to keep in mind:

    19 days from today:

    January 26, 2020 = 180 days (6 months) since the first day Pre-order payments were submitted (July, 31, 2019).  Why it matters: the ability to chargeback on your credit card expires at 180 days.

    17 days from today:

    January 25, 2020 = Chinese New Year. This lands on a Saturday, so the 7-day long celebration begins the previous day, Jan 24. But factory workers start heading home mid-January and don't return until mid February 2020.

    Ostensibly, nothing will be shipping during Chinese New Year celebrations, as the entire country essentially shuts down. The wind-down and ramp up before and after the holiday extend probable shipping delays into mid-February.

    3 days from today:

    2 weeks out from Chinese New Year kick-off.

    Refund Requests are running at 2 weeks turn-around time. If you want a refund that is not delayed by Chinese New Year, you have 3 days.


    Erik said a big batch was shipping this week. Chen said all pre-orders to ship in January. I hope so; many timelines converging at once...


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  3. Check your State Income Tax Return when you file in January. It asks if there is any oustanding unpaid Sales Tax that you owe the State.

    It is true there is no mechanism to collect at present. The Sales Tax is still due; whether or not one pays it is a different matter.

    Also, I mentioned that to show that it is not a valid offset to the Import Tax/Duty/Tariff, as State Sales Tax is State level Tax, whereas the Import Tax/Duty/Tariff is Federal level.


    NOTE:  I am not accusing, I am ASKING because Erik has stated that buyers will now be responsible for the Import Duty/Tax/Tariff when delivered by FedEx. We need to know how much that surcharge is going to be so we can make an informed decision as to whether or not to proceed.


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  4. Yes, I understand the production and shipping issues/delays.

    At this point, it is an issue of TRANSPARENCY.


    I suspect FXtec knows of the imminent increase in import cost and that is why they are modifying their shipping model, in order to off-load the extra expense onto the buyers.

    It will be a rude surprise to hear from FedEx that we must fork over a C-note to take delivery, after FINALLY receiveing a Tracking Number.




    This is becoming a Case Study in how NOT to launch.

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  5. FXtec is surely aware, as they export from China and these tariffs were announced in August - same time everyone here was paying their pre-order invoices. If their product had shipped in a timely manner, pre-orders would not have been affected by the US tariff increase one week from today.

    Is it coincidence that US orders are now being shipped direct, so the buyer must now pay the Import Duty/Tax/Tariff, while our "Sales Tax" is being refunded? The current 5% import duty rate is roughly equivalent to most state tax rates, so the buyer breaks even.

    After December 15, the buyer will have to pay an additional $105+ to receive the phone from FedEx. Net additional cost will be ~$70 after refund of "state sales tax" from FXtec. But that State Sales Tax still needs to be paid, c.f. Wayfair v. South Dakota. So Net additional cost to US buyers is still $105+ .

    When FXtec was importing in bulk, then distributing once inside the continental US, FXtec handled all the Customs and Import Tax. Now that they are shipping direct, the import tax is being shifted onto the buyer.

    Some may say, 'another $100 to get a qwerty phone? no problem' ...

    But this additional charge needs to be acknowledged by the manufacturer. Because: Informed Consent. As buyers, we need to know of additional charges that will be levied BEFORE the phone ships. We need to have the option of cancelling BEFORE the phone ships. We need to know that we have to fork out ANOTHER $105 to [finally] take delivery, BEFORE the phone ships.

    We had a poll asking who was going to cancel if their order was not received by Xmas.

    Now - who will cancel knowing that they have to pay an additional $105+ to take delivery?


    And still, I am asking if this is the case with the tariffs and surcharge. I suspect it is. But it needs to be made CLEAR, so US buyers can make an Informed Decision.


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  6. 10% Import Tariff on Cell Phones imported from China into the U.S.A. goes into affect December 15, 2019



    According to FedEx (see below), that additional 10% Tariff will increase the current 5% Chinese import Tariff Rate to 15%


    I pre-ordered February 28th (#593X) at "$686.32 (includes $37.32 VAT)"

    I paid that pre-order July 31 at "$686.32 + $10.58 Shipping = $696.90 (includes $37.90 State Tax)"


    Now, apparently, In order to take delivery of the Phone, an additional $105 (Import Duty/Tax/Tariff), plus whatever surcharge FedEx adds for their collection service, will be required.


    Is this correct?


    ... since Erik stated that FXtec is direct shipping phones to USA buyers and that said US buyers will now be responsible for payment of the Import Duty/Tax/Tariff.



    Regulatory Alert: China – U.S. Tariff Actions September 2019

    September 10, 2019


    In August of 2017, the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) commenced an investigation under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 into the Chinese government’s acts, policies and practices related to technology transfer, intellectual property and innovation.

    In a memorandum signed in March of 2018, the president directed the USTR to take a range of actions in response to China’s acts and practices. The USTR has proposed to utilize additional tariffs on certain products of China. There have been four tranches (lists) of tariffs implemented upon China-origin goods thus far:

    • The first list of tariffs was implemented on July 6, 2018, and impacts 818 Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS) subheadings at a rate of 25%.

    • The second list of tariffs was implemented on August 23, 2018, and impacts 279 HTSUS subheadings at a rate of 25%.

    • The third list of tariffs was implemented on September 24, 2018, and impacted 5,745 HTSUS subheadings at the initial rate of 10%. The tariff rate was increased to 25% effective May 10, 2019.

    • The fourth list of tariffs was announced by the USTR on August 13, 2019, and implemented September 1, 2019 with the total impacted articles divided into two lists: 4A and 4B. List 4A became effective on September 1, 2019 and list 4B is scheduled to commence on December 15, 2019. The tariff rate announced at that time was 10%.


      After the fourth list of tariffs on China products was announced by the USTR on August 13, 2019, China announced on August 23, 2019 that it would impose tariffs targeting $75 billion of U.S. products in two increments. The first increment of tariff actions on U.S. goods was effective on September 1, 2019. The second increment will occur on December 15, 2019.

      The U.S. then raised the tariff rates on $550 billion worth of Chinese imports on August 23, 2019 with these actions:

      • For the 25% tariffs on approximately $250 billion worth of articles, the tariff rate will be increased to 30% effective October 1, 2019.

      • For the 10% tariffs on approximately $300 billion worth of articles covered in the fourth list announced August 13, 2019, the tariffs will be increased to 15% effective on the scheduled dates for Lists 4A (September 1, 2019) and 4B (December 15, 2019).



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