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Oh wait... Hang on one cotton-pickin minute... When in the bootloader my device is not seen as an adb device, but is seen as a fastboot device. Finished! I just needed an old usb-c 2.0 cable and it looks like I was asking the wrong questions. When in the bootlader the phone isn't an adb device, it's a fastboot device, so searching for adb devices won't turn anything up anyway... All this time I was just asking the wrong questions. I'm gonna update my earlier post from last year where I didn't tell myself what was going on. Sorry for the spam.

Yeah, I also keep whipping out that one old laptop where I know I installed the drivers and minimal adb and fastboot properly whenever I want to flash my phone. Did the update yesterday and was busy getting my Pebble watch back running as pretty much anyone who upgraded to Android 14 before me. Since I've pretty much given up hope on every seeing hands-free working with the Pro1 in my car, I wasn't surprised when it still didn't work. I think it actually got worse as the connection now drops and reconnects every 15 seconds or so causing the music in my radio to restart during a call

Or simply an old USB 2 hub works pretty good. You can still get them on Amazon last time I checked. However, as I'm sure I've mentioned before, I find the best result from using my older Thinkpad (X230) with Manjaro installed. I don't even bother with my Win 10 Thinkpad any more, which is why I'm waiting until I get back home in March to upgrade, unless I get impatient.

Since the last install of LOS20 my pc has been upgraded so I no longer have any 'bad' USB ports, they are all 3.1. However I do have another PC which is not quite so advanced as this one, hopefully it will have a few USB 2.0 ports I can make use of... After a little digging I've found that the 8 pin configuration of USB 3+ makes it bad for adb in fastboot mode, which prefers USB 2 with it's 4 pin connection. I'll try it out tomorrow and get back to ya.