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  1. On Lineage OS 18.1 I keep getting in situations where the fingerprint sensor won't work until I unlock to phone with PIN. That was somewhat of an issue before but since I changed my case it's annoying to the point where the fingerprint sensor is almost useless.

    I'm assuming most those issues are related to the fact that the fingerprint sensor gets temporary locked after 5 failed attempts and permanently locked after 20 failed attempts. Though on stock it would show a message on the lock screen telling you your fingerprint sensor is disabled, on LOS I don't get such message. My new case enables easier access to the fingerprint sensor leading to more failed attempts.

    I'm planning to make a build that fixes this issue the relevant source code is there:


    I guess I would just set those constants to something high enough so that fingerprint lock won't kick in.


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  2. FxTec replied they can't change anything now so I have to live with the guilt of not being persuasive enough to have them use New AZERTY layout and being the one that proposed that limited classic AZERTY layout in the first place.

    On one hand it is nice that they take on community contributions like this. On the other hand instead of passively just taking stuff it would have been nice if they had come here and say: "Hey Slion, we are about to print your classic AZERTY design hope that's ok with you" that would have given me the opportunity to work directly with them on the New AZERTY layout.

    Though I suspect they went for the easier solution to save time as the classic AZERTY design should be mostly compatible with the Android built-in AZERTY definition.

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  3. 2 hours ago, claude0001 said:

    This. That's also the most annoying issue I have with my flap case, which otherwise serves me well (see earlier in this thread). The strap is somehow always in the way, especially when taking pictures in landscape orientation.

    Well, that's not an issue with my latest case as the strap is on the front panel. I'm actually starting to like that strap. I'm somewhat a lefty and it turns out I mostly grab my phone with the left hand and with that design I can actually grab the phone, unlock the strap with the thumb and open the case one handed. I reckon I could also swipe the fingerprint reader in the same move, just need to register that part of my thumb.

    One drawback of the missing strap on the back panel is that I can't lock my phone safely in the car mount anymore... I guess I'll have to find another car mount.

  4. One thing you should know is that the smart case screen wake up feature using the proximity sensor causes a significant drain of the battery. My guess is that it somehow prevents the device to go into deep sleep. I reckon it could drain around 8% of the battery from a full charge. I simply disabled it.


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  5. One issue I have with that case is that it seems to deposit a lot of dust on the screen. I'm thinking it is caused by the inside leather layer which has a nubuck or suede finish not sure which one. I'll attempt to clean it with a some tape hoping it will improve things. Moreover I'm expecting that layer to become smoother overtime which should fix the issue, though that could take months.

  6. 15 hours ago, EvilDNA127 said:


    That looks quite amazing.

    I really like it too, though the closing strap on the front panel does take some getting used to. It has both pros and cons. I should get used to it after a couple of weeks I reckon. Still I could not prevent myself from making plans in my head on how to modify that case so that the strap is attached to the back panel 😁 However it will be a while before I attempt something like that again, if ever. That was a lot of stitching...

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  7. Done with stitching. I love the leather quality, really soft, one of the best I've seen. I need to finish the cutouts on the bumper case and glue it to the leather. Will hopefully get around it tomorrow. The case is 75g that's 25g lighter than the one I've been using so far. Moreover I reckon its lower profile will be more confortable to use, notably when the keyboard is open. The closing latch is on the front panel which is a rarely seen design. As a result when closed it won't lay flat on it's back which should make the phone easier to pick up, not that this was ever a problem considering the thickness of our Pro1s. I really wonder what it will be like to use.


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  8. Just linking to that other thread where I highlight just few of the flaws of the Pro1X AZERTY layout as published by FxTec in their last update:

    The fact is that classic AZERTY is a really poor layout to start with but it's even more crippled when you can't print three characters per key. New AZERTY layout is vastly superior. 

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  9. On 3/26/2021 at 3:53 PM, EskeRahn said:

    SO they can't just take the existing base and print your suggestion in black, that would leave some of your secondary symbol white, and others yellow.

    I'm fine with that. I don't think that's a show stopper. The current colour coding is already broken anyway as you need to shift to access most yellow characters.

    My New AZERTY proposal obviously does not take into account all manufacturing constraint. Please feel free to print in different colour or just don't print secondary character if there is not enough space.

    Most full size keyboards do display main, shift and altgr characters in the same colour.

  10. I just sent the following email to FxTec:


    Dear FxTec,

    Is there still a chance to change the 'final' AZERTY layout?
    It seems you have decided to print my early proposal which is matching classic AZERTY specification but is unfortunately wildly inappropriate without the ability to print three characters per keys. Notably characters such as @ and # are not printed on that keyboard.


    Forum users are already considering ordering QWERTY instead, see:

    Please consider printing a variant of the new AZERTY layout proposed here:

    I'm more than happy to help design it within the constraint of the manufacturing process.



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  11. Currently working on a new low profile bookcase, I reckon I still have like 12 hours of stitching to go through. I had to remove the stitches to be able to incorporate the smartcase magnet, move the closure magnet to accommodate for the Pro1 thickness and customize the back panel to enable kickstand feature.








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  12. This is a rant about F(x)tec choosing to use the age old classic AZERTY that's actually well known for being horrible to type proper French. The French government sponsored researchers to come up with something better and after years of dedicated work they came up with the new AZERTY. Admittedly adoption of the new standard has been poor because most people can't be bothered to learn something new and manufacturers get cold feet when it comes to innovate.

    However I was hoping F(x)tec would dare to be bold, cause that's what defines them. The new AZERTY layout makes a lot of sense for Pro1X thumb keyboard because people are not going to do touch typing.

    Here are pros and cons of the classic AZERTY on Pro1X:


    • People are familiar with it.


    • Known to be bad on desktop
    • Even worth on Pro1X keyboard because you can print only two characters per key where three are often needed.
    • Dedicated key for $ and £, hardly any French needs that 😁
    • No @ printed on the keyboard, meaning to input and email address you need special knowledge.
    • No # printed on the keyboard…
    • No pipe | printed on the keyboard…
    • No curly bracket printed on the keyboard.

    None of those are an issue on the New AZERTY layout.

    @Waxberry @Erik Please reconsider what you are doing there.
    If you need more work on the new AZERTY layout please feel free to ask.

    Here is my current AZERTY proposal:


  13. 6 hours ago, VaZso said:

    would be good to find out if microphone issue can be solved somehow...

    Maybe start a topic and try to involve some LOS folks. It could be the drivers and/or hardware are just bad, or it could be something else is amiss.

    It would be awesome if the community could somehow investigate audio recording issues on one hand and call quality on the other.

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  14. On 9/28/2021 at 10:36 PM, ToniCipriani said:

    know inevitably someone will tell me install Lineage/Sailfish/whatever. But sorry, I use my phone for BYOD at work so I need factory software.

    There are guides explaining how to get pretty much any Play Store app to work on Lineage OS. I too was not optimistic about that but for now it works fine, though as already mentioned multiple times above you will need time and patience to get it working. I too use my Pro1 for work and the dual authentication app Duo works fine as does Microsoft Teams.

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  15. I understand your decision, I do. Especially if you were running stock Android 9.

    Though I find Android in landscape works well in most apps. Even the apps that do not support it still mostly work for me when using FxService force landscape mode. Then again, maybe you use a different set of apps than I do. For instance I hardly do any social media, and mostly use the keyboard in a browser that has been optimized by myself for use with landscape keyboard, namely Fulguris.

    However phone call quality is indeed terrible, radio interference in speaker being the worst issue for me. Though I find overall call quality is a bit better on Lineage 18.1 those radio interference just can't be helped, it's an hardware design issue.

    Then there is the fact that even on Lineage OS you need to invest a lot of time to fix inconvenience and fine tune it so that it works flawlessly. The out-of-the-box experience can be suboptimal especially if you need to input non-english language.

    It is a phone I would only recommend to enthusiasts with enough time on their hands. The amazing thing is that with Lineage OS pretty much anything can be fixed and improved since the source code is there for you to modify, however you need some serious software engineering skills, a lot of time and dedication.    

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  16. If you order now I guess you could hope to get it in a year at best, more likely winter 2022. They still need to show finished prototypes and start production. Then they need to ship to customers who ordered the Pro1, some years ago, and never got it. Then they need to ship to all the Pro1X buyers, then you. Though in terms of volume they don't need to produce that much really. Looks like they sold about 1500 units on IGG. So I guess with 3000 units they could easily complete all their orders. Much depends on how fast they can produce them really. I doubt they will be able to produce more than 300 devices in a month, in fact that's probably optimistic from what we have seen in the past. So it could be that winter 2022 is an optimistic guess...

    All that is obviously assuming they don't hit other show stoppers in final prototyping or during production... things like design faults or components shortage could ruin it all.

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