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I held off pre-ordering the Pro1 as I wanted to see some feedback from users before buying, but the price seems to be continually creeping up - it's now above 700 Euros and more than I am comfortable spending. It's a bit disappointing. :-(

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Is this really a surprise? Some people complain pre-orders don't get enough bonuses, others that pre-orders are cheaper than devices for everyone else, can't please everyone at once.

Having said that, device might get cheaper later, or disappear from the market completely, considering the very narrow niche, your call whether to risk waiting another ten years for a nice qwerty device 🙂

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It has been known for a while that the pre-order price was discounted. It's extremely common for a product to increase in price once it is available.

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Of course - totally understandable and expected that the price was lower for pre-orders. But it has jumped up twice now... will it keep going up? Is this going to be a limited run collector's item? 🙂

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it is up to us to make it as popular as we can (considering the limitations) to let the guys at fxtec make this one cheaper and also make a new one for us in a year or two, fingers crossed.

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30 minutes ago, abielins said:

It's not even that expensive! The cheapest new iPhone you can get is $999 while the Pro1 is only $729 right now.

The iPhone 11 is $699 on apple.com - not that I would touch it with a barge pole.

The Pro1 is ~$800.

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Just now, okayphoneme said:

The iPhone 11 is $699 on apple.com - not that I would touch it with a barge pole.

The Pro1 is ~$800.

Could you post a screenshot? I see $999

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37 minutes ago, abielins said:

It's not even that expensive! The cheapest new iPhone you can get is $999 while the Pro1 is only $729 right now.

But IPhones are overpriced. IPhones are not that bad but if someone wants an IPhone for sake of using it, IPhone 6 or 7 are the way to go and they are cheaper than Pro1. New IPhones are for people who want to show everyone that they have enough money to walk around with newest phone from Apple brand. F(x)tec is hardly a well-known brand.

Unihertz Titan will be a MediaTek Helio P60/6GB/128GB phone and it costs ~33-40% more than a Chinese slab with comparable internals and less than 50% of Pro1 price. Pro1 costs 100% more than a Chinese slab with comparable internals and goes into into Galaxy S10+ price range(which basically becomes a new IPhone-like phone in the market) and still costs more than Chinese phones with SD855+ and 8GB RAM and almost 4k mAh batteries. I'm not saying that Pro1 should cost the same as Chinese phones because it's impossible, the phone has bigger functionality than slabs but the price currently is insane anyway. Fxtec knows that currently there are no alternatives if anyone wants landscape slider. Titan is at least a competitor to BlackBerry phones so they can't just put any price tag. Yeah, there are phones that cost even more than Pro1 and probably won't be supported after 2 years but their hardware is newest possible, it's the same like with everything, if you want a top-tier PC or a car then you have to pay extra, however you can just buy something slightly less powerful and save tons of money. Titan is currently more popular than Pro1. Anyone wanting a qwerty phone will buy a Titan. Only people who absolutely want only a landscape slider will buy Pro1.

Another problem is release date, the phone is becoming worth less and less and constant delays don't help at all. In current state I guess that the phone will be available for "order now, get a week later" maybe in December if not in 2020. Pro1 will meet the same fate as old landscape sliders, high price for average internals after release.

Pro1 will be worth that price if F(x)tec is going to support it for at least 5 years and with parts for even longer. Also, it has be a top-notch design that won't fall apart after at least 3 years of heavy abuse.

There's one part that you just can't buy and store for 5 years and that's a battery, people can't found which battery model Pro1 has even when having its numbers. If Fxtec goes out of business and they made a custom battery then we are all in deep mud. So far Fxtec didn't write anything about the battery. If it's custom then people who are good with repairing phones will be able to do some hacky stuff and put a different battery there but everyone else will have to buy a new phone.

 

Btw. about your Iphone 11 price, check this:

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Just now, okayphoneme said:

That's the 11 Pro. The plain 11 with two cameras is cheaper.

Ah that makes sense. I just clicked the first buy button I could find.

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When checking the price of the Pro1, make sure you are logged out.  That will show you the price of the Pro1 without the tax and VAT stuff that varies.  Yes of course you have to pay the Tax/Vat stuff, but it will show you how much exactly F(x) Tec has raised the price.  For the US, it went from $649 USD to $699 USD. That doesn't seem so bad.  Of course. my State tax, when logged in, brings that to $734 USD, but that's my state's fault and the laws that require internet merchants to collect taxes for internet sales. 

I assume if they succeed in getting the Pro 1 on Amazon, Amazon will only show the base price and add that other stuff in the cart. I sometimes think F(x( Tec should do the same as it might be less confusing.

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3 minutes ago, Hook said:

When checking the price of the Pro1, make sure you are logged out.  That will show you the price of the Pro1 without the tax and VAT stuff that varies.  Yes of course you have to pay the Tax/Vat stuff, but it will show you how much exactly F(x) Tec has raised the price.  For the US, it went from $649 USD to $699 USD. That doesn't seem so bad.  Of course. my State tax, when logged in, brings that to $734 USD, but that's my state's fault and the laws that require internet merchants to collect taxes for internet sales. 

I assume if they succeed in getting the Pro 1 on Amazon, Amazon will only show the base price and add that other stuff in the cart. I sometimes think F(x( Tec should do the same as it might be less confusing.

Here we get the price with tax, logged out or not.

I think it is a US specific thing to show it without tax, as the tax is state-dependant.

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3 minutes ago, EskeRahn said:

Here we get the price with tax, logged out or not.

I think it is a US specific thing to show it without tax, as the tax is state-dependant.

Ah, okay.  So VAT isn't country dependent? Or is that part of what the EU did-- normalize VAT.  Just curious.  Oh well. Thanks.

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16 minutes ago, Hook said:

Ah, okay.  So VAT isn't country dependent? Or is that part of what the EU did-- normalize VAT.  Just curious.  Oh well. Thanks.

I think they can easier estimate the tax for each country by the IP outside the US.

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