Mailmonster 1 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Hi anybody here selling an fxtec pro1 qwertz layout? Best regards chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,664 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Unlikely (for any keyboard layout); otherwise, there would be a active sales offers, which wouldn't be open for a long time, either, because demand substantially outweighs supply... You might have a look at ebay instead and opt for a QWERTY layout; configured as "English (USA), international", all German umlauts and many other western European special characters are easily available there, too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Ebay is indeed more likely BUT the qwertY print does not only differ on Y/Z and umlauts, the qwertY have all keys shifted, making it rather uncomfortable for any languages with letters beyond A to Z.... See e.g. here 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rob. S. said: You might have a look at ebay instead and opt for a QWERTY layout; configured as "English (USA), international", all German umlauts and many other western European special characters are easily available there, too. The biggest problem (for me) would be the shifted key locations instead of missing umlauts. Personally, I don't need German-specific umlauts but I am very happy with Pro1's QWERTZ variant because at least it has standard QWERTY key placements. Anyway, it may worth a question for F(x)tec if they may have QWERTZ or current non-shifted QWERTY keyboards as spare part, but it may have low chance before Pro1-X availability. However, replacing the keyboard itself of a shifted QWERTY variant to another one is possible. ...but you are right, most of the Pro1s were sold together with shifted QWERTY layouts and only a few of them were resold on Ebay, so if someone would like to buy one and a Pro1 appears on Ebay, the best thing to do is buying it regardless of its keyboard, if its price is acceptable. Then it may be possible to replace keyboard later if F(x)tec will have spare part(s) to sell. Edit: One of the reasons of big difference in sold quantity is QWERTZ was only available to Europe as destination while shifted QWERTY was available for all locations. So there may be also Pro1s to be sold from the USA but all of then will be shifted QWERTY. Edited January 27, 2022 by VaZso 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, VaZso said: and a Pro1 appears on Ebay, the best thing to do is buying it regardless of its keyboard, if its price is acceptable. Then it may be possible to replace keyboard later if F(x)tec will have spare part(s) to sell. Yup. Though I prefer the qwertZ, i would much rather have a Pro1 with qwertY than no Pro1. 🙂 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, EskeRahn said: Yup. Though I prefer the qwertZ, i would much rather have a Pro1 with qwertY than no Pro1. 🙂 True, the same applies also for me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mailmonster 1 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Ok seems to be a lot harder to get a used fxtec in comparison with a cosmo Communicator 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,664 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, EskeRahn said: the qwertY have all keys shifted, making it rather uncomfortable 4 hours ago, VaZso said: biggest problem (for me) would be the shifted key locations When I received my pre-owned QWERTY phone (other than my originally ordered and not-yet delivered QWERTZ phone), I, too, thought that would become a problem. After a few weeks, though, the "shifted" layout became second nature to me, and now I think having direct access to characters like the square brackets actually makes me like the QWERTY layout more than I would have liked the QWERTZ layout. 🙂 Edited January 27, 2022 by Rob. S. Bad case of mixing up letters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claude0001 1,352 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rob. S. said: ... actually makes me like the QWERTZ layout more than I would have liked the QWERTY layout. ... dazed and confused ... Do you own a qwertz or qwerty device, now? Qwertz provides square and curly brackets only via modifiers (Fn key). Edited January 27, 2022 by claude0001 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, claude0001 said: Do you own a qwertz or qwerty device, now? Qwertz provides square and curly brackets only via modifiers (Fn key). Partly... so yes, German layout allows access to { } via FN key but I use QWERTZ physical keyboard together with non-shifted QWERTY logical layout and I can reach accented characters using FN button. However, I am a bit special here - basically normal QWERTY layout allows better international layout compatibility as special characters of a language may be placed to those buttons what became moved as a result of shifting. So I also should use őűéáóúüíö characters during writing a message in my native language which buttons are at a non-standard location on the shifted variant. I don't care at all that I use some buttons of my Pro1 differently than what is written on them but using shifted QWERTY layout as non-shifted would be really confusing, so it is not a good way to use it as a normal layout. Also, I can use the very same layout on my Pro1 what I use on a PC and that is the real key feature of Pro1's (non-shifted) keyboard(s). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,664 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, claude0001 said: ... dazed and confused ... Do you own a qwertz or qwerty device, now? Qwertz provides square and curly brackets only via modifiers (Fn key). Not as dazed and confused as I must have been. Thanks for noting, should of course have been the other way round there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OKSun 103 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) I am selling my pro1. It is a qwertz device, not rooted. I used only stock android. I always kept it in a protection sleeve (see picture). I would send you the sleeve as well if interested. I have the original charger as well as a spare one if you are interested. I still have the original box. You are buying here a tested device! Everything is working fine. No heating finger sensor, no problem with the battery. I did not have the ghost touch issue. I have been using the device since July 2020. I never broke or replaced the screen. I have ordered a replacement screen with frame during the indigogo campaign (to be able to change it by myself without delay and hassle). If I ever receive it, it will part of the package. To have a better grip, I added stickers on the sides of the phone (an excellent tip of @Hook). See pictures. Please send me a private message if interested. Sold Edited July 14, 2022 by OKSun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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