Rob. S. 1,663 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Sorry if I missed that somewhere (and I'm unable to find anything in these web forums, even in one I'm hosting myself); until now I didn't care for QWERTY because I ordered my device with QWERTZ. Now it seems I might get my Pro¹ sooner when I change the order to QWERTY, so I'd like to know if anyone is using the QWERTY layout to write text that includes special national characters like Umlauts, especially the German ones (ÄÖÜäöüß), like the "US International" keyboard on PCs does it (Which would be " follwed by A etc. for Umlauts and something like AltGr-S for ß...) ? Does that work? I have no problems with it on PC keybards. Edited September 24, 2020 by Rob. S. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,464 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 FinQwerty offers US-International. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,663 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Wow, thanks. I knew of FinQuerty, of course, but I didn't know it did that, too, including the necessary 'dead keys'. So that would be a good option for stock. Searching again, I find evidence that there is something like that in Lineage, too: I guess that should also include Umlauts? (I'm not decided yet whether I'll use LineageOS or rather stick to stock, but I guess I'll try Lineage first with the few critical apps that might check for SafetyNet and go back to stock only if I absolutely must...) In the end, the QWERTY layout might have a slight disadvantage for text, but an advantage for things like the Linux terminal, and I might choose that option... Edited September 24, 2020 by Rob. S. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,464 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, Rob. S. said: In the end, the QWERTY layout might have a slight disadvantage for text, but an advantage for things like the Linux terminal, and I might choose that option... You are not limited to a single layout, you can easily change. So if one is better than the other for different purpose, swapping is simple (Ctrl-Space in stock). I swap between Danish and English (and got a few others for testing too) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 https://slions.net/resources/fx-qwerty.7/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hka 131 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 hours ago, EskeRahn said: You are not limited to a single layout, you can easily change. So if one is better than the other for different purpose, swapping is simple (Ctrl-Space in stock). I swap between Danish and English (and got a few others for testing too) Is it possible to unbind the ctrl-space shortcut? It messes with my emacs:p I use FinQWERTY and us international on stock, works great! äåößáśéíµ¤þüúð¿ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, hka said: possible to unbind the ctrl-space shortcut I doubt it, looks hard coded in Android. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,464 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Slion said: I doubt it, looks hard coded in Android. I just made a completely fresh install of Lineage, and here Ctrl+Space does NOT cycle through the languages selected, so it can be turned off or altered somewhere (do not know where though) Please ignore... Only selected one... 🙄 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,464 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Slion said: I doubt it, looks hard coded in Android. Well if you go to Settings►System►Language & Input►Physical keyboard►Keyboard shortcuts helper You will see that it officially is not Ctrl but the magnifying glass. Something somewhere maps Ctrl+Space to this. However it is not limited to the Pro1 see e.g. https://github.com/klausw/hackerskeyboard/issues/142 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,663 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) On 9/24/2020 at 6:25 PM, Rob. S. said: Now it seems I might get my Pro¹ sooner when I change the order to QWERTY I've just received and agreed to another chance to have delivery expedited somewhat by changing my September 2019 QWERTZ order to QWERTY in following up to support request 6870 (which I declined the first time, after I wrote above quote)... As the offer now came with a hint that there might be a limited timeframe, and with all the mail Fxtec seems to be getting now that the Pro¹ X campaign is running, I thought it might be ok to reference @Erik here to increase the likeliness that this will work out? Edited December 1, 2020 by Rob. S. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matf-kabouik 414 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Just wanted to add that there are also some native us-intl xkb variants (with or without dead keys) coming pre-configured on SailfishOS. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. S. 1,663 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Interesting, thanks! Now that Multi/Dual Boot seems to be coming to the Pro1 after all, giving Sailfish a serious try might actually become an option for me. By the way, I was just told that I should be getting the tracking number for my QWERTY Pro1 within the next few days 🙂 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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