Waxberry 638 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Real world sample shot of Fxtec Pro1 compared with Nokia 8.1, which has the same primary sensor of camera (Sony IMX363) and Nokia 8.1 has ZEISS certified. All photos are uncropped, unfiltered. Due to forum attachment size restriction, the pic shown here will be of a "screenshot", with the original file uploaded into the link following. Please also note the camera software of Fxtec Pro1 is still WIP, there will be further improvements for the future. I will try to cover all the user circumstances, but some will come later. First: Daylight, sunshine in a green From Nokia 8.1: [attachment file=20518] Original Pic: https://drive.google.com/open?id=16CDV1KGIh5zPm8csxsK-t_dq0Q15457i From Fxtec Pro1: [attachment file=20519] Original Pic: https://drive.google.com/open?id=124h7etRp8x-jl85K1yHyg3GRfM1cMGti Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waxberry 638 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Sample 2: Daylight, seaside From Nokia 8.1: [attachment file=20522] Original: https://drive.google.com/open?id=19NyoK-TndTlGszrA78puF2xzF7S-g39v From Fxtec Pro1: [attachment file=20523] Original: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uFnCJ_GIB0_DJTcGaV4MrCagi55x33xR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michael.bosscha 142 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Overall, the Pro1's camera looks a bit lighter. I can't say I dislike it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waxberry 638 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Sample 3, Indoor with adequate light Nokia 8.1: [attachment file=20528] Original: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jdrnOmeupb_Whscw6q8Y_eCMpS8LEBnP Fxtec Pro1: [attachment file=20527] Original:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KMutefqXz87JD-_ig2pqWOXBhreZUpKB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doktor Oswaldo 904 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The first picture seems to be a little to bright, the second seems to be pretty good. In the third one the pro1 wins clearly. It surely seems the camera is already good enough for me in this state. It makes me optimistic that the camera is going to be pretty solid once it isn't WIP anymore. But I am a pretty basic camera user, wouid love to hear the opinion of somebody who has actually an idea about what he is talking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ddark-il 100 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The pics are comparable. Can't say that FxTec is winner in all conditions - I prefer Nokia on third pic. I like that pictures aren't over-sharpened as on Nokia, but I would prefer less saturation. Also I think that more tweaks needed on brightness/contrast side. We should wait for the final product, but even in current state, the quality is comparable with the big guys P.S. Flood the twitter with #shotonfxtec after phone released? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Those are some great photos :). What I'd really like to know though is how close can the camera focus for macro(-ish) shots. In support of those who can't access google drive because old browsers and the likes, I placed the samples also here: http://www.matland.be/pro1shots/ (I hope the fxtec team does not mind, please let me know) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just a thought, but i think this thread is worth being pinned :). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,427 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just a thought, but i think this thread is worth being pinned :). Good point, done. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,427 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Those are some great photos :). What I’d really like to know though is how close can the camera focus for macro(-ish) shots. Flashed with the newest firmware, the pre-production unit (might be different from the real stuff), can do macros in Open Camera down to about 11.2x8.4cm, at about 9cm distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david 921 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thanks @waxberry. Is the work-in-progress for the camera happening in the camera app that F(x)tec is supplying with the phone, or with drivers, or with hardware? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david 921 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Flashed with the newest firmware, the pre-production unit (might be different from the real stuff), can do macros in Open Camera down to about 11.2×8.4cm, at about 9cm distance. Did the photo quality and macro capabilities change for you in Open Camera from one version of the firmware to the next? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 netman wrote: Those are some great photos :). What I’d really like to know though is how close can the camera focus for macro(-ish) shots. Flashed with the newest firmware, the pre-production unit (might be different from the real stuff), can do macros in Open Camera down to about 11.2×8.4cm, at about 9cm distance. Well hey that's pretty good, better than all my phones before :). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waxberry 638 Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thanks @waxberry. Is the work-in-progress for the camera happening in the camera app that F(x)tec is supplying with the phone, or with drivers, or with hardware? Mainly with camera app and it's algorithm. Hardware has been finalized already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,427 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Did the photo quality and macro capabilities change for you in Open Camera from one version of the firmware to the next? Oh indeed, the first firmware I had was very early. I did not even attempt to do macro on that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,427 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Well hey that’s pretty good, better than all my phones before :). I tried my Samsung S8- and it goes down a bit further (something like 8x6). BUT the limitation is NOT the optics! Trying a lot of times with a high contrast image, It can get sharp MUCH closer than the above. Something like 6.4x4.8 I guess. It is clear on the display when the autofocus is hunting, that the optical focus limit is way lower than the 10cm the OpenCamera displays as the lowest limit for manual focus!! So it might be simply a matter of reporting a lower limit to the API - or could be a bug in OpenCamera??? With Snapdragon Camera app I can get about 8x6 images - just like the S8- can (Autofocous in Flower mode I do not think the app offers manual focus - did not find it) Attached a reduced image with the centre from the original copied in [attachment file=22812] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 netman wrote: Well hey that’s pretty good, better than all my phones before :). I tried my Samsung S8- and it goes down a bit further (something like 8×6). BUT the limitation is NOT the optics! Trying a lot of times with a high contrast image, It can get sharp MUCH closer than the above. Something like 6.4×4.8 I guess. It is clear on the display when the autofocus is hunting, that the optical focus limit is way lower than the 10cm the OpenCamera displays as the lowest limit for manual focus!! So it might be simply a matter of reporting a lower limit to the API – or could be a bug in OpenCamera??? With Snapdragon Camera app I can get about 8×6 images – just like the S8- can (Autofocous in Flower mode I do not think the app offers manual focus – did not find it) Attached a reduced image with the centre from the original copied in <span class="image-overlay overlay-type-image"><span class="image-overlay-inside"></span></span> That's awesome! I might be able to leave my compact camera at home when i get the pro1 :). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ddark-il 100 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Not sure if it will be helpful(at least it was interesting), but I did some post processing on the first pic. Original Nokia Pic https://ddark.ws/fxtec/nokia1.jpg Original F(x)tec Pic https://ddark.ws/fxtec/fxtec1-orig.jpg Edited F(x)tec Pic https://ddark.ws/fxtec/fxtec1-edit.jpg Darkroom Settings https://ddark.ws/fxtec/darkroom1-settings.png Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,427 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Here an additional sample image from the last newsletter: [attachment file=23382] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,427 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 They have published a sample from the narcissistic camera too on twitter: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 They have published a sample from the narcissistic camera too on twitter: It was a great pleasure meeting @eLtMosen again over the weekend in #FrOSCon Here is the first selfie taken with @thefxtec #Pro1 proto. ? pic.twitter.com/syUeU85lvg — Liangchen Chen (@chenliangchen) August 12, 2019 <script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Also mirrored for the non-tweeters: http://www.matland.be/pro1shots/twitterselfie.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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