adidas88 29 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Hello again, long story short. I am looking for an internet browser with several abilities: - opening/closing new tab with keyboard hotkeys (not working on firefox anymore...) - jumping to address bar directly without clicking anywhere. (or jumping there with hotkey) - add ons to block several internet sites I tried several (opera, vivaldi...) and none fulfilled all of them. As the motto is: "function is key" I don´t want to create a new tab, click with my finger onto the adressbar and then enter. I know that sounds lazy but itˋs something that really bothers me... So, are you maybe using a browser which helps my needs? thanks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,518 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Alain Grange made a specific "Keyboard Browser", I must admit I haven't used it for quite a while. but it is clearly designed with a real keyboard in mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) https://slions.net/threads/fulguris.63/ On 10/13/2020 at 11:00 AM, adidas88 said: opening/closing new tab with keyboard hotkeys (not working on firefox anymore...) Expand Ctrl+T and Ctrl+W On 10/13/2020 at 11:00 AM, adidas88 said: jumping to address bar directly without clicking anywhere. (or jumping there with hotkey) Expand F11, may have to hit it twice depending on tool bar current visibility status. If you are using Fx Qwerty you can do F11 with Fx+'-'. On 10/13/2020 at 11:00 AM, adidas88 said: add ons to block several internet sites Expand I don't think Fulguris does that yet. Edited October 13, 2020 by Slion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,518 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 11:43 AM, Slion said: https://slions.net/threads/fulguris.63/ Expand Oh sorry, I completely forgot you made this. 😔 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adidas88 29 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Hey Slion, thanks for the link. found that when I was searching through the forum but how do I install the browser? download it by myself from github? Or is there an official version? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adidas88 29 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 11:29 AM, EskeRahn said: Alain Grange made a specific "Keyboard Browser", I must admit I haven't used it for quite a while. but it is clearly designed with a real keyboard in mind. Expand Thanks for the tip, but he completely redesigned the layout for his browser. Opening tabs with just one letter and didnt found any hotkey to close it. I would like something with the "standard" layout. ctrl + t etc... ctrl + w ... How do you all browse and why doesn´t it bother anyone but me? 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, adidas88 said: Hey Slion, thanks for the link. found that when I was searching through the forum but how do I install the browser? download it by myself from github? Or is there an official version? Expand There is a download button on that home page: https://slions.net/resources/fulguris.10/ It will also notify you when updates are available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:05 PM, adidas88 said: How do you all browse and why doesn´t it bother anyone but me? Expand It did bother me and that's why I developed Fulguris 🙂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adidas88 29 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:09 PM, Slion said: There is a download button on that home page: https://slions.net/resources/fulguris.10/ It will also notify you when updates are available. Expand 🙈🙈🙈 I would nominate myself for the silliest comment today. 😜 Thanks 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:17 PM, adidas88 said: I would nominate myself for the silliest comment today. Expand You are not the only one to have asked that question after visiting that page. I guess I should change the colour of the download button to make it more visible. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:20 PM, Slion said: You are not the only one to have asked that question after visiting that page. I guess I should change the colour of the download button to make it more visible. Expand Green should do I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,518 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:52 PM, Slion said: Green should do I guess. Expand Interesting thing, I still did not immediately spot it even in you cropped image. I guess we simply do not expect Download to be top right? Allow me to suggest a little waste of screen estate: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) On 10/13/2020 at 1:13 PM, EskeRahn said: guess we simply do not expect Download to be top left Expand or was it top right? 🤣 Nonetheless I think you are right our eyes scan top down the left side of the page content thus easily missing the download button. Though I won't bother changing the page layout. Maybe I could add a Download section at the bottom of the page content too. However I do believe the green button is a lot harder to miss now. Edited October 13, 2020 by Slion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sequestris 710 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I am still all about the Samsung Browswer. Ad-free, super fast... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D1ggs 141 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 11:00 AM, adidas88 said: Hello again, long story short. I am looking for an internet browser with several abilities: - opening/closing new tab with keyboard hotkeys (not working on firefox anymore...) - jumping to address bar directly without clicking anywhere. (or jumping there with hotkey) - add ons to block several internet sites I tried several (opera, vivaldi...) and none fulfilled all of them. As the motto is: "function is key" I don´t want to create a new tab, click with my finger onto the adressbar and then enter. I know that sounds lazy but itˋs something that really bothers me... So, are you maybe using a browser which helps my needs? thanks. Expand Kiwi Browser is the only browser that fits your needs. 1. Ctrl+T opens a new tab. 2. CTRL+L goes to the address bar. 3. Supports all chrome based extensions. Download nano ad blocker and defender for the perfect desktop 4. Google Amp remover, night mode, and webpage night mode Not to knock the work of the fulguris team. Kiwi supports all of chrome's pc shortcuts as well as browser extensions. That's an all around perfect browser. You'll find it on the playstore. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 3:46 AM, D1ggs said: Kiwi Browser is the only browser that fits your needs. Expand Though it does not seem to be so good at managing screen real estate in landscape. It shows both status bar and tool bar thus wasting at least one 5th of screen real estate. I could not find settings to adjust that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D1ggs 141 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 11:00 AM, adidas88 said: As the motto is: "function is key" Expand Once upon a time, when keyboards dominated the mobile landscape software was designed to work effectively with them. Unfortunately, with the rise of Asian consumers demanding phablets because they're too poor for laptops left us with prioritizing screen size and eliminating everything. Now we're stuck with a mish mash of designs tailored for a screen only world. A few browsers (like Kiwi) at least have chrome style shortcuts. In fxtec's defense, there's only so much they can do before we're butting up against a wall of design choices that neglect enthusiasts like us. 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,518 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 7:44 PM, D1ggs said: In fxtec's defense, there's only so much they can do before we're butting up against a wall of design choices that neglect enthusiasts like us. Expand I very much agree with you, I think it is only a matter of time before both Android and Ios drop the support for hardware keyboards at a deep level. At that point it will be up to any hardware manufacturer to provide the support, and this is likely going to be so costly that there are not enough of us keyboard-lovers left to make this sustainable, and we will have to let do with fake 'keyboards' on the screen. Unless of course both types will die together in favour of some totally new efficient way for humans to communicate with the devices. e.g. 'speak' without air and with the lips closed. Some collar with sensors detecting the movements of larynx, tongue and cheeks, combined with some AI that removes the ambiguities based on context. I would not be surprised to see that within the next decade. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 10:23 PM, EskeRahn said: I very much agree with you, I think it is only a matter of time before both Android and Ios drop the support for hardware keyboards at a deep level. At that point it will be up to any hardware manufacturer to provide the support, and this is likely going to be so costly that there are not enough of us keyboard-lovers left to make this sustainable, and we will have to let do with fake 'keyboards' on the screen. Expand I think there's enough people using bluetooth keyboards, oddball devices like android TV with keys on the remote and the likes to prevent us from falling into that dystopia. And let us not forget that no matter how small, all of us here are also making a difference too :). If we were to end up in a future where Android doesn't inherently have keyboard support, the only possible solution would probably be to use another OS as troublesome as that'd be. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,518 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 11:13 PM, netman said: And let us not forget that no matter how small, all of us here are also making a difference too :). Expand I certainly hope you are right, 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slion 1,201 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 10:23 PM, EskeRahn said: , I think it is only a matter of time before both Android and Ios drop the support for hardware keyboards at a deep level. Expand Rest assured that's not happening anytime soon. Operating Systems today are designed around HID. Human Interface Device is the protocol enabling pretty much any kind of input devices regardless of the hardware interface I2C, USB, BT. Keyboards are just one of them. That's not to say keyboard support won't deteriorate further but it is very unlikely to ever be dropped altogether. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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