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7 hours ago, Craig said:

For example if I want é I do e then sym.

Well the 'dead key' accent is typed before not after. And it is Alt not Sym.

Alt+E then E. gives é
Alt+E then Shifit+E. gives É

etc.

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7 hours ago, Craig said:

and he forgot question mark

It is just a bug in the render, Just tested, it is on Fn+L as the yellow print in the keys says it should be. 😎

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7 hours ago, Craig said:

The pink means it is different than printed.

Is there a way to rearrange the physical keys to match the layout from finQwerty?

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3 hours ago, SchattengestaIt said:

Is [tab] recognized in Android?

Tab is supported pretty well by android itself. Alt-tab, for example, can be used to switch apps.

Specific apps seem to vary quite a bit in how they treat Tab.

I don't particularly care about generic android apps... My use cases are not "use regular android apps with a keyboard" but rather "use apps designed for a full keyboard." The latter category support Tab just fine.

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4 minutes ago, zurvan2 said:

Is there a way to rearrange the physical keys to match the layout from finQwerty?

You lost me? Do you mean to have the render more precisely match the 'staggering' of the key-grid, rather than the rectangular grid?

If you mean if we can open and move the key-tops individually, then I doubt it, it is a 'mat'. So would require to cut this up, and rearrange. I doubt that would work well.

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Yes, the keycaps. The renders don't include a bunch of keys along the left hand side... I think I could deal with a few keys not being labeled correctly, but not with the whole layout shifted.

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2 hours ago, zurvan2 said:

Yes, the keycaps. The renders don't include a bunch of keys along the left hand side... I think I could deal with a few keys not being labeled correctly, but not with the whole layout shifted.

The one I posted was for QWERTZ keyboard.  Which already starts with the letters unshifted, so the only letters that dont match print are z and y.  It's the symbols that wont match up very well, and those are the ones that are harder to remember than letters as they're not standard... so that is a big downside.

The version for shifted qwerty keyboard cannot be the same cuz layout itself is different.

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On 12/17/2019 at 9:08 AM, kontakt said:

Regarding 2.1.2: WiFi Calling: Another user reported working wifi calling with T-mobile after getting the phone "approved" by them.

That would be me.
I have been with T-Mobile since 1998.
I don't know what specifically to ask for because when I called, they just said hold on a sec and then enabled my friend's (who is on my account) Pro1 and he got wifi calling.

When I get mine I will let you know what specifically they do to enable it, but I have no clue when I will receive it. I'm betting on April-June.

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On 12/17/2019 at 10:53 AM, Hook said:

Great review, @zurvan2 I agree pretty much with everything.

This is by far the best Android phone I have ever owned (previously a title held by my Nexus 5 which I had 4 years).  Although I felt this way long before I had a Pro 1 to hold in my hands, I just shake my head at people saying that the phones specs are aging.  The phone has exactly what it needs to create a completely premium experience.

On the fingerprint sensor, I just find it difficult, but not a problem as I prefer no to use it.  In fact, I have my lockscreen set to swipe.  I also plan to carry it without a case.  Despite some slickness, it seems to me the weight helps it settle firmly in the hand.  Guess I'm just a risk taker.  😉 However, I would never put any phone or PDA in my shirt pocket.  My devices have always had the left front pocket of my pants reserved for them.

Great comments all around.

I still have my Nexus 5. It's running KitKat 4.4.2. That's the device I am replacing because sometimes it keeps rebooting itself and the camera sucks in low light.
I have had this little guy since 2012 😄

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10 hours ago, zurvan2 said:

Tab is supported pretty well by android itself. Alt-tab, for example, can be used to switch apps.

Specific apps seem to vary quite a bit in how they treat Tab.

I don't particularly care about generic android apps... My use cases are not "use regular android apps with a keyboard" but rather "use apps designed for a full keyboard." The latter category support Tab just fine.

True! I remember using this with the Droid 4. So it's a software issue with the virtual keyboard.

Thanks for clarifying!

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