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I have facts: 1. the phone was sent to non IGG backes - a mistake they/you say 2. the phone was sold trough the stores - another mistake"? Those are assumptions? Maybe that's why some of us choose to buy it, AGAIN, from a third party and cancel the original order. Another assumption, i know. Assumptions everywhere, just from one side. Superb, indeed.

Thanks. The forum fairy woke from her beauty sleep and resolved the problem. All seems ok now

Mixed legal, audit, accounting and consulting. I've "seen" a lot of businesses, of all kinds. That's why I choose the word greed and not crooks, as you did in your first post. IGG is full of crooks and Liangchen it's not one of them, as we know already. We still do not have an answer as opposed to? The lots of answers we've gotten so far? Superb.

A mistake it's a mistake, altough this kind of mistake says a lot. But if you add the later "mistakes", eg the phone hit the streets before our addresses, on top of other mistakes. Yes, that's greed, ups... STRATEGY. You do realize that some of us know businesses of all kinds and maybe it's our day job, right? If they've admitted, it's no more guess-work? Damn... Talking about allegations... PS: still the "bug" with no reaction option to my posts, since a little earlier 😄 I'll like yours, maybe the forum fairy will resolve the sudden problem

Greed, not giving a f.ck, not keeping their word, doesn't make them crooks and I didn't say that, you did. If i didn't know that you've received your phone, I would say that you're making a projection. 😄 On the contrary, I understood a LOT of delays, mistakes, non-communication, you name it, until now and you can check my posts, but there are limits. Re-read my "arguments", as you say, and try to do it with some basic common sense, based on the facts. I liked the strawman type part. Lots of "arguments" and "answers" (dis)regarding the facts. Yes, I repeated the word fact, because it

Allegations? Seriously? Even now? It's more than one case when a non-IGG received the phone. I have an email from fxtech and the say there were some mistakes. As if it's very hard to apply a filter in an xls, to keep it basic IT wise. Just guess-work, you say. ALL 3 stores, so far, were IGG backers, you say? And not only that there were backers, they've backed a LOT of orders. Really? C'mon, I've asked for some basic common sense... As you've observed, I was "quiet" until recently, but there are limits and facts. If this is the (pre)sale attitude from the fxtec regarding t

Yeah, right. I'm #26 IGG backer, #40 IGG order ID. NO stock assigned as I write this. Do some basic counting. You're saying? Have any of you (un)conditional fans even considered the possibility that it's just pure greed and they just want more money/orders/shops, without any consideration about the backers and/or early paid pre-orders? I understood the tech or logistic delays, but I can't think of any reasonable explanation for this. Do you, based on the FACTS? Of course, you can also base your judgement on the fxtec stellar communication with us. Some basic common sense, please

Should we start a new thread with "stock assigned"? So far, we have: https://www.dragonbox.de/en/handhelds/handhelds-running-android/fxtec-pro1-dualsim-smartphone-with-keyboard-qwertz https://www.clove.co.uk/products/fxtec-pro1?variant=20904891482171 https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/fxtec-pro1-128gb-black-599-dual-sim-sd-12mp-mobiltelefon-12435539 Yeah, i know, I'm a troll and this is hate speech, according to some....one.

Maybe they were IGG backers #1 and #2 😄 @fxtec Seriously? How about the real IGG backers?!? We've supported you for how many months, soon to be years? This has nothing to do with production, logistics and such, but with a simple promise. Simple as a man's word.

I've just checked. Order id #40 on IGG. I think that I'm the #26 backer, but some in front of me bought more than one. I remember #26 or #2X because I counted sometime ago, when it could be done. Frustration? 😄 You could add that I bought an Moto Z2 Force, which sits brand new in some drawer and my daily Relay 4G is dying. IF, either being #26 or #40 IGG backer, I have NO stock assigned so far of the 1-2-3 batches, the question is: how may phones were actually made and sent?!? 20? 25? 39? Like I've said earlier, maybe can someone explain to me like I'm a 4 year old...

I didn't scream, but could you explain to me, like I am a 4 year old, why the promise that the first batches will be for the IGG backers has been broken? I wrote to support and they told me that it was an error. C'moon. I understood that there were manufacturing and shipping delays, I undestand if they send first to some testers or people like EskeRahn who can give tech feedback and helped the company with the forum, but I don't understand why they didn't respect such a simple promise. BTW, if I'm not mistaken, I'm #26 IGG backer (+/- 1-2). No stock assignet yet. #26!

PLEASE, respect the IGG backers first "rule", as promised but didn't applied so far. EU, IGG (#26, if I remember correctly), #8XXX order

I've paid within days because they had to modify the amount (reverse charge VAT). Anyway, this doesn't explain the fact that a non IGG backer got a stock assigned message, not to mention the order #, 12xxx vs 8xxx (mine), both of us from EU countries. I can understand some problems, but it's not that hard to start with a list of IGG backers paid orders, as promissed. This is not a manufacturing issue, c'mon...

So... EU, no IGG, order 12xxx and you've stock assigned Me, also EU, IGG, order 8xxx and nothing yet, first or second batch. Something is wrong...

Hmm... strange. IGG, 8xxx, no stock assigned yet.

Sorry for the late answer, but I've been abroad. Yes, they responded and updated the amount, without VAT, and the payment link. Everything is ok and I already paid. For those who use Revolut, it works ;)

Also, it would be nice to get a discount if we buy a second Pro1 ;)

Same question from me. I wrote to @info when I got the payment link, but no answer so far.

Thanks. I've missed it, because I mostly follow the new forum.

I received the IGG voucher code after I've made the pre-order. Where/when I can use it?

The VAT percentage in the pre-order page is the one in UK (20%), regardless of the currency. That the way it works. The price should be the same in EUR and GBP, parity wise. At least, until the hard Brexit :D

Wrong ;) Available for pre-order now at $649 | £649 | €649 * *plus shipping and sales tax for customers in the US. Shipping and taxes are not included for the customers from US. Country is not the same with currency. Also, if I'm from EU, the same taxation level (%) is applied if the price is in EUR or GBP.

It's a niche phone so the price will be higher. What I don't understand, is that the price is the same in different currencies ;) I'm willing to pay extra for a Pro1/2 with some "minor" changes: - 4.5" to max 5" NON-curved screen with small bezels; - removable battery. I'm still using a Relay and I have a spare full one with me when I know there is no power source and I'll use the phone much more than usual (weddings, funerals, courses :D). I wouldn't mind if it's a little bigger (3600-4000); - dual sim + SD card simultaneously; - IR port.

Because of the slim bezels, 5 would be kind of ok. I would preffer a 4.5 myself, but I think it's kind of late to change the size. Also, i don't like curved edge display