mcdinner

But you came up with the legal differences. I can't find em. To tell only half the truth is to give life to a new lie. Edit: Sure there are. There are also official statements here and confirmations of successful cancellation and received unit assignments

So, there is just no difference you can tell here. This forum is just full of speculations, because of the lack of information. yes, still took a long time for a plastc toy with buttons. working phone prototype is not FCC approved and cannot be sold on free market. You need to do that first, so everything takes more time.

Well, you're wrong then. There are definite legal differences. could you pleas show me ? I'm really interested in that. Again, you're wrong then. I fully expected them to slip dates. I just expected more openness about this, and not this many slips. 1 large slip would make more sense even. Communication, which is indeed really bad, was not the main issue of your post. Because they generally still need to design the device. Even the Pro1 had a working prototype at the point of ordering. most of them have prototypes in the first pla

I don't remember the specifics, but I remember somewhere the distinction being made that this wasn't a crowdfund. Finished may have been the wrong words specifically, I more meant the difference between a crowdfund and pre-order. One to me seems they only have a concept really, while the other has most things figured out, with gradations between them obviously. I don't think there is a defined difference between preorder and crowdfound, It's just another way of collection money. This is another fallacy. yea, right. You should feel whatever you feel about that :)

thx

How do you come to the conclusion that a pre-order Product hast to be completed and finished? When they started accepting pre-orders it was totaly clear the only existing devices were pre-production and testing. You should be happy that the did pre-ordering with the (confirmed) option to cancel instead of the common practice of kickstarter and others to just rip off a huge percentage of the money for doing nothing and then give the rest to the backed company where you have no chance to get you money back. What made you expect that a small company with no existing production loine and smal

still here

Hope you will get one when its available :)

Lets say the new batch is just the next one !?

I like all thos Nokias with a border around the flat screen.

This is a user 2 user forum, so technically no user anymore if canceled. But you are right, there is no reason not to stay here if you still interested but too scared to wait. In this case those ppl shoud not participate in the conspiration theories and whining here in the thread.

That would be nice.

yes, you can switch it of. For me not having notification led is a no go and I would not buy the phone.

I think you got an extra x in yout order number -> 94xx So you pre-ordered and so you should be in the next batch. 🙂

but thats not a "relatively small number" 😄 Nevermind, I hope we all will get our device soon and I'm happy for all who got their email. I hope to see some reviews soon.

1000 IGG backers ?

only first batch according to their (fxtec) information

Yes, I remember that, but pebble was sent from China? directly. Never had a package from within EU that got checked by customs.

We also payed VAT in the order.

If shipped within EU customs should not be involved anymore.

With coupon or regular order ? In wichich range or orderNumber are you ? AFAIK, everything not EU/US will be fullfiled from Hongkong.

did you use a backer coupon or just regular preorder ?

ah ok, thx for the info, it may work then. But I would still be afraid that it would move to an edge and the knock somewhere. Reality will tell soon :)

the second one you posted does not protect the edges 😕

Nah, Yoda is not from Mars, would be Coruscant or Dagobah. Still the message stands, even if they just ship from China.