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@Erik @Waxberry Any rough estimate You guys could provide on general availability in the EU? Realistically - before the new year or probably not?

This phone being aimed primarily at geeks of all kinds, I will propose another terminal emulator - Juice SSH. As soon as I buy & get the Pro1 I will make sure to compare both, but I've been a real fan of Juice thus far.

Wow this phone really is the dogs bollocks. Can't wait for some indepth independent reviews to kick in :) I sure hope tech sites/influencers have ordered theirs in the first batch :)

Close enough! :) First tracking number on the forum, make sure to remember to post some pictures when You receive the phone :)

Just a thought on how to make the wait less unbearable, while going through tens of posts in the production status thread is just too much for me. Post here IF, AND ONLY IF You've got anything concrete from FXtec, like: 1) The Pro1 - pictures or video links more than welcome :) 2) a tracking number that can be tracked online 3) a "stock assigned" email message @ moderators - please remove any posts from this thread that do not fall into either of the above three categories. If it's possible and appropriate, may be worth making this thread sticky too.

No offence, but the mechanism You're describing here is very very similar to a Ponzi scheme :)

I beg to differ :) Take a look here: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/2018-smartphone-sales-decline-news/ . It says the smartphone market pushes roughly 1.5bln devices a year. I think it's fair and safe to say that with very few exceptions all these devices are pretty much the same thing - a rectangular touchscreen in some form of chassis. Instead of taking a risk of trying to bring something truly new to the market, manufacturers compete with each other by letting You choose how badly damaged and bloated a distribution of Android You want to torture Yourself with for the duration of Your

I beg You not to forget people like myself in here, albeit it's probably hard to estimate the number of people with almost their CCs in their hands just waiting to see preorderers receive their Pro1's to click the "Buy" button. I'm actually hanging out for the first independent reviews from something like techradar as well, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot more cautiously-natured people interested than just me.

I recently read about a study during which teenagers were given a "walkman" device and a stereo casette, and they were asked to make use of these items. Most of them didn't have a clue about how to work with them which was really amusing. Technology has been progressing at a frightening pace in recent years, and the demise of keyboard phones is just one symptom of that. I'd be really surprised if the Pro1 catered to market of people <30 years of age. But I'm more than happy to be wrong for the sake of FXtec's marketing success and more forgotten designs being brought back to lif

This poll will be a lot more interesting if it's done only between the people who actually do end up buying the phone. Right now it looks like 50% of user base are <30 years old, which I find quite odd.

The cut-out corners of the keyboard deck do seem like a poorly executed afterthought. Quite sad, if anything they should've just left the screws visible but not protruding in any way - the look of steel torx screws would be a lot more premium than some cheap-looking stickers. Good thing it's not ducktape. That's something I can live with though, unless under those stickers there's nothing to stop dust and other life's tiny debris from coming inside the phone. What's more worrying is the uneven keyboard backlight. I guess I'll just stay tuned for official reviews coming about to see if I'll for

Indeed, 700+ views is fairly disappointing considering how many times the launch has been postponed. I'm just hoping that the device gets finished and starts shipping - it would be a huge letdown to see this project flop.

Which is precisely why it's in FXTec's own best interest to improve their communication style with the community here - after people start asking their credit card company to trigger the "chargeback" procedure, or it's paypal equivalent in case any people here paid that way, it will be too late. There's just steep downhill for FXTec from then on. These chaps are not looking fondly at businesses who look like they're just cheating customers. I've had a couple of cases where something I bought off ebay or some stores in China didn't get delivered, and PayPal settled it with me very quickly with

I'm not sure everyone here is on the same page with what "pre-ordering" stuff really means. Have You ever pre-ordered anything on - say - amazon? I've done so numerous times, mostly with PS4 games, Mortal Kombat in particular. The way that would work was that the studio making the game would announce a provisional release date, which would trigger the possibility to pre-order the game to appear on the webpage. Once clicked, I was guaranteed by amazon to get the game as soon as it releases, for a price no bigger than that displayed on the page (I actually had that price decrease once or twice o

Being too cautious to pre-order this phone I'm eagerly waiting for it to start shipping and get some tech websites to review it before I make my decision. However, while the above update is much appreciated, I think what would really put people at ease would be regular updates here on the forum every 2-3 days saying where You guys are in terms of being ready to ship. Something as short and open as say: "We've got XXXX units waiting to ship in our warehouse, we're missing this or that certification or piece of paper from that institution or this ministry or whatever. ETA for this paperwork is

Hi, Does anyone know if APTX codec will be supported on Pro1 for wireless bluetooth headsets? My impression was that it has been built into Android natively a while ago, but I'm not 100% sure and the specs page for Pro1 doesn't list support for this technology, so I'd appreciate this being clarified. Thanks in advance!

And as always, there's the obvious option to just plug in any pendrive through the type-c port... Can be on a piece of cable if someone fears damaging the port. For stuff like periodically downloading the content of the internal memory that seems like a no-brainer to me. I've got 128gb of internal storage on my current phone - Mi Max - and I've never used half of it, but if I did I would imagine this would be for stuff like videos, which I would probably want to work on using a full-blown pc anyways. Bottomline, 128gb is probably generous enough for 95% of the general phone user population, he

It looks like I'm not the only one craving a BB-like phone done right :) Hope that's where FXtec will go next, someone above suggested licensing the keyboard tech from blackberry while doing everything else FXtec style. To me that would be a winning combination and it's easy enough to imagine, much the same way as is done today with screen+battery size variations on otherwise identical phones, how FXtec could offer such a device in a variety of sizes appealing to a much bigger audience. I'd personally like something in the size of an old Nokia e72 or not a lot bigger, but a very old nokia tric

And yet there's surprisingly little variation in how phones are built these days. One thing I'm really curious about the Pro1 is whether the keyboard will allow typing with all fingers, not just thumbs (think of a very small traditional keyboard). Judging by the phone's size alone I think it should be possible for people with relatively small or medium sized fingers, but it really depends on the tactile feedback of the keyboard. I think for thumb(s) only typing the form factor of a nokia e72 or old blackberry is better, albeit at the price of a much much smaller screen.

I think it suffices to say that Nokia, Motorola (think Razr v3) and Sony Ericsson designers of old used do spoil us for choice of form factors and features on the phones they offered. These days all You choose is the brand name/logo somewhere above, below or behind the screen as well as how badly damaged a version of Android system you want. To me that's just sad but I think that's the reality of the business. Although maybe that's just laziness and lack of courage on the part of manufacturers these days not to have anything more interesting on offer? You'd think physical keyboards are over, b

Agreed there's generally no harm talking what and what not, but this might put pressure on the poor fxtec people, and I think they've got enough pressure on their backs already at this point. I'm eagerly waiting for pro1 to start shipping and get reviewed objectively by some respectable phone authority like techradar for instance. But for all I see this is very likely going to be my next phone, provided that it actually makes it to the market. As for one-handed devices, I'd like to see something along the lines of old blackberries or nokia e72 come back - horizontal, small screen (at most

Am I the only one to notice that this thread is about a sequel to a phone that hasn't even shipped to first preorder clients yet? Take a deep breath, drink a glass of cold water and let the fxtec chapps finish off their first product and actually ship it to clients before discussing the next product maybe, hm?