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  1. @Khalid I understand and agree with many of your feelings here. It's frustrating, especially after such a long wait, to have so many things get in the way of usability. I hope it gets better for you. But, if not, FWIW you can probably sell with ease (maybe for profit, see thread on used prices I've been watching), these clackers are in high demand right now. I do still struggle with my own Pro1 (like you), but it's actually really common for quality control to be on par with what you see here. In fact, I'm impressed FxTec has created something this stable and reliable. Here are some issues I've seen from countless other small device startups: no restore info / drivers (FxTec: we do have this) no support channels (FxTec: does have support, albeit small staff) no official community (FxTec: we are here! this is good!) poor build quality (FxTec: good build quality, keys aren't popping off, etc.) randomly bricks (FxTec: does not seem to, AFAIK) Should this be remarkable? No. It should be normal. But we are in a "race-to-market" global economy, where Samsung can put out exploding batteries, Chevy can have zillions of recalls (especially on 1st model-year of a new gen), and video games can be released with ruinous bugs ("we'll patch it later"). Pre-orders, wait-lists, and crowd-funding campaigns only serve to skew this even more. I'm just glad FxTec entered this kind of market, and delivered something actually usable and reliable, more on a "big company" standard of quality than their tiny company size should allow. I like to think they benefit from us tinkering, complaining, fixing, collaborating. Thank you for posting here. All of us here wanna help if we can, and FxTec will keep getting better, through conversations like this! 😊
  2. @Jayfb and @ThiccAl thanks for sharing. I'm still curious about getting a spare unit, so that I can fearlessly tinker with mine. I suppose if I find a cheaper used one, that one would be the one to tinker with. For example, as far as I know we don't have any teardowns yet. I'd love to be the one to do that. @fxyo1's would even work for that! (RIP) Also, the trend continues! A new high price, wowzah! Active: $976 Buy-It-Now OBO ($1,295 Canadian, converted) https://www.ebay.com/itm/F-x-tec-Pro1-Pro-1-by-Fx-Tec-128gb-QWERTY-PKB-Phone-Montreal/254503113358
  3. Logged in hoping to catch @fxyo1 before it's too late: Please dig it out of the trash!!! There are LOTS of useful components, I would personally pay you cash for it. I'm sure others here or on Ebay would too. Like hundreds of dollars. - Battery - Keyboard - Shell - Main Board / CPU / RAM - Buttons / Sensors - etc It's just that these phones are so rare. Having one for parts is still super valuable!! I hope I caught you in time... otherwise what a waste 😭
  4. I almost requested a refund, just a few weeks ago. I had been waiting almost 1 year (since Feb 2019). Two main considerations I had at that time: # 1 -- Is this a scam? # 2 -- If not, how long might it be? We are lucky to have a lot of data now, that #1 should not be a concern anymore. Yes they messed up a bunch, bad service, huge delays. But at least it's not a scam, in the sense like, they're not just taking your money and running off to an island. No way, it's pretty clear at this level of fulfillment, that's not the case. (PHEW!) But yeah it's still a struggle, and I understand it's really annoying to suffer the long waits, and then try a different solution (refund) only to have to wait a long time for that too, ughhhh!!! But I really wanted to share how similar I felt, and try to reassure you that eventually this will get sorted out. I feel much more confident about that now than I did just a few weeks ago.
  5. @Raksura Thank you for weighing in, that does help it make sense. The level of benefit still seems unclear to me (30 days early vs 90 days early; I guess we don't know) I'll admit I'm much more out of the loop than I was PRIOR to getting my phone. That gigantic "production status" thread was a fun read (we'll call it fun, sure) to help pass the time while I was waiting. But I just recently heard about Chen's note to us, that they may be delayed by coronavirus (on top of holiday gap). Maybe that's contributing to the spike in price / demand, but I hope it's overblown.
  6. Yes, this is what I'm most excited about. Being able to bore out the main swiss-cheese "lens" portion, to be left with only a "surround" of rubbery protection, helps open the device and reduces edge-of-touchscreen accidentals. In theory, anyway. It's lucky that the vol / pwr / etc. buttons are NOT on the top brick (screen), because cutting out the entire screen portion AND extra button holes might make it too weak to rely on. Top-brick: Cut main face, leave sides intact. Bottom-brick: Cut sides for ports, leave main face intact (or small adjustment for camera). Seems legit! I don't mean to harp on but THANK YOU SO MUCH @EskeRahn & @sequestris for buying zillions of extra test cases so the rest of us don't have to. Those cheap cases can add up to a pretty hefty price over time... you guys are so awesome 🙂
  7. @sequestris, you inspired me to try the clear case on front, and I was curious about @EskeRahn's concern of two cases fighting each other for grip in the gap between screen and keyboard, but at least with this combination of cases they seem to hold snugly while open, while closed, and while actively opening/closing! It's very promising! Also -- at least for me, this DRAMATICALLY improves my ability to casually flip it open, without having to think about it so much.
  8. I've been watching for used prices since before my pre-order arrived. Now I already have my phone (and I love it), but this trend has me curious: Sold: $650 (December) https://www.ebay.com/itm/114025919171?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Sold: $750 (January) https://www.ebay.com/itm/124065044910?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Active: $795 Buy-It-Now OBO https://www.ebay.com/itm/202892767007?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Active: $849 Auction (1 bid) https://www.ebay.com/itm/223881371712?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc I guess I expected the price to start going down, now that so many of us have been getting ours. How much extra is it worth to get the phone early, for those still waiting? Also, who bids $849 (+$20 s/h) when there is one for $795 BIN (+free s/h)? Someone, please help me understand this... like, do we know when the next batch is expected (for real)? In other words, do we know how many days "difference" these listings have over buying from fxtec.com? For example, if it's 30 days difference, then that comes out to $3-$5 per day for rush order. Seems steep! Maybe more importantly, do we know if that next batch is going to include some extra "on hand" so that people can just buy direct later? Eventually, I'd like to refer friends (enthusiastically!!) but would prefer to have them buy direct, since that supports the brand better. I want a Pro2 to happen, after all...
  9. Obviously it's because there is no guarantee (and in fact reason NOT to believe) that it will arrive in "a few weeks" as you say. You don't know for sure. Chen doesn't know for sure, either. For many people here, the frustration is less about waiting, and more about tying up funds during the wait. FxTec made it sound like they're not taking your money 'til shortly before delivery, which made the "waiting" period much easier on everyone who wanted to pre-order. We're rapidly approaching the 6-month anniversary of money being tied up. Surely if that 6 months turned into 2 years, it would be understandable to not want your money tied up 2 years with no phone. I suspect a lot of people here would not have pre-ordered and pre-paid if the ETA was mid-2021. So the question comes down to... how long is everyone comfortable having their money tied up, without a phone? One month? Six months? One year? Two years? (Note: I would gladly pre-order even if ETA was mid-2022, as long as you don't need prepayment years in advance.) 😉
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