which ssh terminal client suits the Fxtec Pro-1 ?

[pistikem 83]

my stone-age Nokia N900 has a terminal emulator built in - ssh is just a command, works like a charm.

now, how does that work with Android 9.0 Pie ? importantly, which ssh terminal client is compatible with the Pro-1's physical keyboard ?

[netman 1,424]

I personally like connectbot, it can work for both ssh and also local terminal on the phone. Has enough settings to make it behave pretty much any way you could want. Also the source is quite easy to compile and modify. When I first used it the UI had some annoying bugs on my phone which I fixed, they took the pull requests and they soon where also in the play store version :).

[SirBaconIII 66]

Termux is pretty good. Advertises itself as a terminal emulator and a Linux environment that works off of a modular system to keep itself lightweight. I personally like root support and the ability to have multiple terminal sessions. Plus, it's open source. Used it when troubleshooting my network a while ago and it has stuck around ever since.

[VaZso 1,997]

my stone-age Nokia N900 has a terminal emulator built in – ssh is just a command, works like a charm.

 

On my Motorola G6 (using Android 9), I have Termux installed and I can ssh to another machine.

However, it is very frustrating and slow using it with on-screen keyboard, not speaking about the space on the screen that keyboard uses, so it is almost useless that way.

 

Otherwise, the keyboard itself is supported by Android, so with real keyboard, it should work just like on Nokia N900.

 

What I still miss from N900 (as my phone is currently not rooted) finding a proper way of reaching my phone using ssh from a computer. It was very convenient for me on my N900. I mean reaching my filesystem or even the whole phone from my computer, not restricting like non-rooted Android does.

 

 

[Craig 1,435]

Do you mean which android shell programs support keyboard? All of them... afaik.

 

I like termux. Supports apt for a few things...

[Zimeon 11]

Termux is a good one, been lately using JuiceSSH myself .

[Noir 112]

Termux is a good one, been lately using JuiceSSH myself .

 

me too, tested JuiceSSH on the pro1 in Düsseldorf, but the network was too bad, I was not able to test the arrow and crtl and tab keys unfortunately.

[Zimeon 11]

Zimeon wrote:

Termux is a good one, been lately using JuiceSSH myself .

me too, tested JuiceSSH on the pro1 in Düsseldorf, but the network was too bad, I was not able to test the arrow and crtl and tab keys unfortunately.

They claim to have support for hardware keyboards, so perhaps tab and ctrl could work right out of the box.

[netman 1,424]

Noir wrote:

Zimeon wrote:

Termux is a good one, been lately using JuiceSSH myself .

 

me too, tested JuiceSSH on the pro1 in Düsseldorf, but the network was too bad, I was not able to test the arrow and crtl and tab keys unfortunately.

They claim to have support for hardware keyboards, so perhaps tab and ctrl could work right out of the box.

 

Android already supports these things for BlueTooth and USB-OTG keyboards, so it should work without problems :).

[EskeRahn 5,421]

Android already supports these things for BlueTooth and USB-OTG keyboards, so it should work without problems :).

 

Well sure, but the program would still need to know that say "Ctrl" exists to have prepared some sensible specialised action. I mean beyond the general stuff like control navigation, marking and cut&paste within a textbox provided by the Android OS.

[pistikem 83]

perhaps my original post was not entirely clear : i don't need an Android terminal to access the phone per se. i just need an easy way to use ssh to get out of the box. if the interface is ok i can use either a built-in ssh or an ssh terminal client like you all spoke about.

 

szia VaZso, yes, i agree, that was a pretty good feature in the N900, to access it remotely with its entire file system - which i btw still use on a daily basis as phone, camera, terminal - till the Pro-1 arrives...

 

i used JuiceSSH in the past years ago on my wife's Android which was ok. but Termux looks pretty customizable, also in terms of hardware-keyboard shortcuts. i am wondering how easy it will be to setup utf8-shortcuts like i use in xterm with setxkbmap for magyar, french and german.

 

moreover, regarding the Pro-1, i am wondering if Termux or JuiceSSH will flawlessly work also in horizontal mode with the physical keyboard ?

 

does anybody here have already experience with the Pro-1 ? they charged me for mine but i am still waiting for it...patiently.

 

[EskeRahn 5,421]

moreover, regarding the Pro-1, i am wondering if Termux or JuiceSSH will flawlessly work also in horizontal mode with the physical keyboard ?

 

does anybody here have already experience with the Pro-1 ?

 

With the Pro1 yes (preproduction unit) but not with SSH. Just opened Termux in the Android Market, and some of the screenshot provided are in landscape... I will try to install

[netman 1,424]

i used JuiceSSH in the past years ago on my wife’s Android which was ok. but Termux looks pretty customizable, also in terms of hardware-keyboard shortcuts. i am wondering how easy it will be to setup utf8-shortcuts like i use in xterm with setxkbmap for magyar, french and german.

 

Since there is no xterm in android I think you'd have to depend on either setting up something globally with the android/fxtec provided software, or depend on the shell; I use zsh myself and the bindkey command can be used to assign key combinations to do things, I'm sure the more common bash has a way also.

[netman 1,424]

netman wrote:

Android already supports these things for BlueTooth and USB-OTG keyboards, so it should work without problems :).

Well sure, but the program would still need to know that say “Ctrl” exists to have prepared some sensible specialised action. I mean beyond the general stuff like control navigation, marking and cut&paste within a textbox provided by the Android OS.

 

True that, I'm 90% sure that ConnectBot and JuiceSSH do though.

[EskeRahn 5,421]

pistikem wrote:

moreover, regarding the Pro-1, i am wondering if Termux or JuiceSSH will flawlessly work also in horizontal mode with the physical keyboard ?

 

does anybody here have already experience with the Pro-1 ?

With the Pro1 yes (preproduction unit) but not with SSH. Just opened Termux in the Android Market, and some of the screenshot provided are in landscape… I will try to install

 

Tried to install, and can see that say Ctrl+A or Alt+1 acts the same way as softkey followed by physical key, so Ctrl and Alt are supported. Though physical "Esc" jumps to the homescreen (where e.g. softkey Esc, just above the physical, followed by D clears to EOL)

 

ADD: I have suggested fxtec to make a user-setting requiring a long press of Esc to jump to the homescreen.

[VaZso 1,997]

ADD: I have suggested fxtec to make a user-setting requiring a long press of Esc to jump to the homescreen.

 

Thank you.

...or even an option to disable ESC to go to the home screen.

 

Maybe enable F(x) + D for that option (-:

 

 

[Craig 1,435]

<Just opened Termux in the Android Market, and some of the screenshot provided are in landscape… I will try to install

 

Termux works fine landscape on Photon Q.

[mahasamatman 2]

Though physical “Esc” jumps to the homescreen

If they wanted a key to jump the homescreen, they should have added a HOME key. Co-opting ESC is a major design flaw.

[pistikem 83]

good news, thank you, EskeRahn. in this case it seems that horizontal use of the Pro-1 works with Termux ?

 

is the Esc-key jump perhaps related to Termux, rather than to Android ? the Esc-key is pretty essential for UNIX stuff.

 

i am especially curious in trying to use the Right-Alt key separately in a dedicated mode with other keys together as that would help me in bash with my language escapades. although, as netman stated, it remains to be seen if my setup only works with xterm or can be applied to other terminal emulators...

 

[EskeRahn 5,421]

good news, thank you, EskeRahn. in this case it seems that horizontal use of the Pro-1 works with Termux ?

 

is the Esc-key jump perhaps related to Termux, rather than to Android ? the Esc-key is pretty essential for UNIX stuff.

 

i am especially curious in trying to use the Right-Alt key separately in a dedicated mode with other keys together as that would help me in bash with my language escapades. although, as netman stated, it remains to be seen if my setup only works with xterm or can be applied to other terminal emulators…

 

Termux works in Landscape aka Horizontal on a Pro1, yes.

 

The other questions I can not answer, sorry.

[netman 1,424]

EskeRahn wrote:

Though physical “Esc” jumps to the homescreen

If they wanted a key to jump the homescreen, they should have added a HOME key. Co-opting ESC is a major design flaw.

 

This is default behaviour in android (you can tell by trying on a bluetooth keyboard).

[zurvan2 125]

I personally like connectbot, it can work for both ssh and also local terminal on the phone. Has enough settings to make it behave pretty much any way you could want. Also the source is quite easy to compile and modify. When I first used it the UI had some annoying bugs on my phone which I fixed, they took the pull requests and they soon where also in the play store version :).

 

Back in the Photon Q days (or possibly earlier) VX ConnectBot was a good fork that had more support for phones with hardware keyboards. It looks like it hasn't been updated in a while, though.