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Congratulations, I hope you enjoy using the phone. When you say "migrate," to be clear there is no chance of using a D4 SIM in a Pro1 and expecting it to work. The D4 is not a VoLTE phone (and, sadly, never will be) so the previously provisioned SIM can't be used in the Pro1 with, or without, a mule. You'll need a fresh SIM card (which shouldn't be a big deal to obtain, but I would work on that now so you will be able to use the phone when it arrives). Also, remember that when you get the fresh SIM up and running in the S5, you'll need to be certain that VoLTE calling is up and ru

I couldn't agree more about having choices and not liking the BB keyboards! I too find them way too small to comfortably type on and achieve any real accuracy and speed. I don't think I'll have any trouble acclimating to the Pro1, but only time will tell. I do know that speed and accuracy aren't a problem on my Droid 4 (which I'm using right now).

@rtuz2th It doesn't appear as though you'll ever, at least officially, get the info you are requesting. I'm not happy with F(x)tec's lack of communication (to put it mildly as it just leads to unwarranted expectations and a large amount of disappointment), but I don't think there is anything nefarious taking place. That said, it has been shown, by people who know these things that there is currently approximately 2,500 actual devices that have been ordered (I believe it's somewhere between 2,500 and 3,000, but not more than 3,000). So that answers that. Then you can look at the folks posti

Oh I love it! As long as you aren't on a plane then all is well. 😄

Looks like they are making good on their promise that phones will be available for public purchase by Christmas. 😀

There is no guarantee that an old SIM, that has been heavily used in a device over a period of time, will work. Speaking from experience, often a fresh SIM card, that gets activated in the mule phone, and then VoLTE is activated and tested (as well as SMS and data -data includes MMS messages) is required. The problem above, and possibly your confusion, was that the voice calls that were made on the mule weren't actual VoLTE calls, instead the calls were completing via CDMA or GSM/UMTS and it was assumed that they were VoLTE. This is a problem, so to be certain that VoLTE calls are taking pl

Well, until we all started commenting on the data, it was actually one of the only "just the facts" threads. Granted the OP injected a tainted comment, but, past that, it was just about the data. Maybe if we go back to that format (meaning keeping all the commentary in other threads) we can avoid all the whining, complaining, and conspiracy theories in this one! None of us have any idea why. I, for one, don't have any conspiracy theories about any of the concepts floated in this or any other thread. I simply see the situation as: they are a small startup with manufacturing

On the flip side... 😀 Since F(x)tec isn't being forthcoming with info about how many units have shipped, where things stand with production quantities, roughly how many pre-orders exist, etc., etc., etc., it is kind of nice to see some factual numbers, and get a feeling for where they are with fulfillment. It was only a couple of weeks ago that many people believed there was a real possibility of F(x)tec getting caught up by Christmas. However, I could tell from those posting these same numbers in other threads, that Christmas wasn't an actual possibility. However, many of those who believ

Hear, hear! The legal POV is such that if you don't like this delay, then request a refund and they'll process it asap. Exactly! What he said. In the same boat, agree completely.

This reminds me of a t-shirt from my university days: There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

[Sarcasm] No way, no how! There is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for this and everyone responsible, in even the slightest way, should be shot! [/Sarcasm] Your kidding right? Nothing to apologize for, the missing r could have just been a typo. It's amazing to me how well those from non-English as their first language countries write in English (which is far from easy!). Heck, English is my first language and, due to lack of sleep, I didn't even spell the word "hear" correctly the other day! Separately, Google SafetyNet means absolutely nothing to me either. Nonetheles

put there end of feb[r]uary... Yes, or even better, MUCH better would be IF they wrote: "Our desire is for everyone who pre-ordered to receive their devices by the end of February. However, with all that's happened the past few months, we have learned that we cannot predict what will happen. Thus, the end of February isn't a guarantee, but we are trying as hard as we can to make it happen. Thank you for all your help, encouragement, support, and, especially, your understanding."

My crystal ball appears to be up and running. It's showing that all of us who are on this forum, and who don't cancel, should have a phone by the end of July 2020.

Oh gosh yes, and I'm not interested in any association! LOL

Hear, hear!

No worries, but we should be crystal clear here so someone else doesn't hit the same pitfall you did and think it can't be activated for LTE use. Thus, to clarify... If using a mule to activate a SIM for use in the Pro1. You (meaning all of us who are interested in currently using Verizon) will need to activate a SIM then be 100% certain, as you are testing all the different services, that the mule is able to place VoLTE calls! This might not be readily apparent (especially if you are calling someone who isn't using a HD voice service and device) because if the preferred network settin

I think we may be talking about two different things...? I thought what you were asking is if you can just turn on all the VoLTE provisioning flags in the Pro1, pop in a fresh Verizon SIM, and then activate it (online or at their store). Is this correct? If so I still say no go because unless Verizon sees a device (in this case the Pro1) as compatible and accepted for their network they won't allow it to be activated. How do they do this, by using the IMEI, that's it. So until Verizon officially okays the Pro1 none of us will be able to activate it directly (without the mule procedure).

Glad you got it working! Nope, won't work as asked above because the IMEI of the Pro1 is rejected by Verizon. That's the biggest problem here! If they would allow the device on their network, then we would have full access to the CDMA system and have full functionality for voice, SMS, MMS, data, etc. (albeit at 3G instead of 4G) even without LTE. Also, is your Moto G6 a non-CDMA phone (not originally a Verizon model)? It sounds like it by your preferred networking selection.

Very well stated. I think you are right on point, give it some time, and we'll all work on solutions; it's just too new right now!

I hope everyone in your house is felling better and can enjoy some of the weekend. The flash tool looks great! The real IMEI, and being able to address radio issues, is a huge leap forward!! This is fantastic news! As always, but it can't be repeated enough, thanks for all you are doing!

Nice that you are being so patient, but anyone still stuck with having to use a Priv should be moved to the top of the list in order to end their misery! 😁

It will definitely be the case that VoLTE will be required (and most often a new SIM too). This is because Verizon won't allow you to activate a new SIM without the phone being VoLTE, but also, and more importantly, because the LTE spec doesn't cover voice calls. When you are using your Moto G6 to place voice calls (and send SMS texts) through their network, they are actually using the CDMA system. Many people are unaware of this because the phone lights up as LTE or 4G and they think the voice call is using LTE, but it's not (LTE is only for data). So you'll need to make certain the mule

ABSOLUTELY, without a doubt! Yes, exactly, well stated.

There are a handful of reasons why I like Verizon better than the other carriers, I was just listing the one which I believe is why most prefer the carrier. Personally, I've always like the CDMA technology better than the TDMA (GSM) technology, and have also found that in weak signal areas the CDMA signals seem to propagate further and allow calls to be placed from much greater distances. My experience isn't just a single location in the hills, or whatever, nope. I've tested it in numerous (weak signal) locations in across many different states here in the US. Why get a PRO1? Good que

Not even close!! I'm following my advice and planning on July 2020. If it arrives before then, I'll be pleasantly surprised. This keeps me calm, cool, and collected. 😀 I'm not telling, I'm suggesting. I often heed other peoples suggestions, I find many of them helpful. Should you not want to take mine, then so be it. No worries! Also, didn't you say in another thread that you got a tracking number? If so, congratulations but then why all the anger? Huh? I'm sorry, but I'm confused. I didn't say anything about getting a refund other than "I don't think th