D1ggs 141 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) Just purchased my Pro1 earlier this week. Looking forward to it coming when it comes. I long since gave up on owning any QWERTY phones since Blackberry dropped the ball. My current phone works fine and I can wait a little bit longer. If anything, the only mistake was opening up this forum before you guys started shipping the devices. You're selling a device to hella rabid power user nerds, what did you expect? 😛 Keep up the good work FXTEC Team! Edited December 7, 2019 by D1ggs 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) Hey, not only the USA is waiting, we're all in one boat here :-D. I'd also kinda given up hope for good qwerty phones before Pro1 came along, but here we are, welcome! Shameless promotion: we also have an unofficial discord full of rabid nerds to ease the waiting https://discord.gg/k4NtAGy Edited December 7, 2019 by netman 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, D1ggs said: Just purchased my Pro1 earlier this week. Looking forward to it coming when it comes. I long since gave up on owning any QWERTY phones since Blackberry dropped the ball. My current phone works fine and I can wait a little bit longer. If anything, the only mistake was opening up this forum before you guys started shipping the devices. You're selling a device to hella rabid power user nerds, what did you expect? 😛 Keep up the good work FXTEC Team! Here we are: the people who ordered late; back of the line, paying full price. We'll all get it eventually. Welcome to the future Pro1 lovers' club. :) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D1ggs 141 Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, silversolver said: Here we are: the people who ordered late; back of the line, paying full price. We'll all get it eventually. Welcome to the future Pro1 lovers' club. :) I'd rather pay full price for a later batch than a slightly cheaper first batch to be on the bleeding edge. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯ Not worth playing that game anymore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, D1ggs said: I'd rather pay full price for a later batch than a slightly cheaper first batch to be on the bleeding edge. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯ Not worth playing that game anymore. Haha, there is definitely something to be said for not getting the first few devices in a run while they're still learning how to do it. :) 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, silversolver said: Here we are: the people who ordered late; back of the line, paying full price. We'll all get it eventually. Welcome to the future Pro1 lovers' club. 🙂 4 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hook 3,020 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 hours ago, netman said: Is that a Yank sitting next to someone from the EU? 😂 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polaris 423 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Picture is somewhat inaccurate. The phone needs to be replaced with an N900 or a Droid, more people need to be added (a bunch more), and I have a feeling everyone should be holding or using physical keyboard phones (and as such aren't in any real rush since we are all still very productive 😀). 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Polaris said: Picture is somewhat inaccurate. The phone needs to be replaced with an N900 or a Droid, more people need to be added (a bunch more), and I have a feeling everyone should be holding or using physical keyboard phones (and as such aren't in any real rush since we are all still very productive 😀). But keanu is in the third batch and his n900 USB connector has just broken 😢 His friend was lucky IGG backer and just received. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polaris 423 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, netman said: But keanu is in the third batch and his n900 USB connector has just broken 😢 His friend was lucky IGG backer and just received. LOL! Which is exactly why he should have been using a Droid 4! 😀 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingOfTerrible 69 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 NJ, USA here. Waiting for many months, just like many others. Just saw a note about having to pay customs import fees, that doesn't sound fun and likely expensive. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 20 hours ago, KingOfTerrible said: NJ, USA here. Waiting for many months, just like many others. Just saw a note about having to pay customs import fees, that doesn't sound fun and likely expensive. Old saying, anything worth having is worth paying more for.....or was it something else LOL.... Certainly I agree with your statement, but it is what it is. I'm certainly not going to let customs stand between me and the best new phone EVER! :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
divstar 164 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Germany here, paid a few months ago - just when it went from 650euro (2 days before I ordered) to full price (736euro). The wait is the same, guess I just wasn't lucky enough... QWERTZ-layout btw. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D1ggs 141 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, divstar said: Germany here, paid a few months ago - just when it went from 650euro (2 days before I ordered) to full price (736euro). The wait is the same, guess I just wasn't lucky enough... QWERTZ-layout btw. So help me out , QWERTZ what's the deal? Is it faster to type on? Who swapped the keys and why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, D1ggs said: So help me out , QWERTZ what's the deal? Is it faster to type on? Who swapped the keys and why? It makes it more convenient to type the European dialect of english currently being implemented as the official language for the EU: 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doktor Oswaldo 904 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, netman said: It makes it more convenient to type the European dialect of english currently being implemented as the official language for the EU: So if you optimise English, it becomes sort of Swedish? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
divstar 164 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 It's just what's more convenient to write in German on... at least that's the reason for me buying it... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,460 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Doktor Oswaldo said: So if you optimise English, it becomes sort of Swedish? Yeah, it is fun to see how these simplifications makes the common roots of Nordic, German, Dutch and English stand out. But why not go back to the original "Thorn" Þ rather than Z for "Th" ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doktor Oswaldo 904 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Yeah, it is fun to see how these simplifications makes the common roots of Nordic, German, Dutch and English stand out. But why not go back to the original "Thorn" Þ rather than Z for "Th" ? Because the pro1 has 64-keys and not 65 ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,460 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, D1ggs said: So help me out , QWERTZ what's the deal? Is it faster to type on? Who swapped the keys and why? But on a more serious note , the reason for it that many languaages that uses A-Z have additional national letters that are usually on the right of the A-Z block, So if you want to use a national standard keyout, the qwertZ wil have a few misprints, but using the shifted qwertY will require you to memorize totally new positions for them. So while the shifted qwertY might be fine for writing proper English or the US or other pidgin variants, it is suboptimal for the rest of the world. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,460 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Doktor Oswaldo said: Because the pro1 has 64-keys and not 65 ... Count again, 66, it is only the ads that insists on 64... 🙄 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doktor Oswaldo 904 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, EskeRahn said: Count again, 66, it is only the ads that insists on 64... 🙄 wtf... the website is not a reliable source 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,460 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Doktor Oswaldo said: wtf... the website is not a reliable source I never got an answer on why, Take the route 66 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Doktor Oswaldo said: So if you optimise English, it becomes sort of Swedish? Sort of German; this is at least 20 years old, as I remember seeing it in the 90s. The joke is that since German lost, the German advocates were going to make everyone spell English with a thick German accent. :) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, EskeRahn said: Yeah, it is fun to see how these simplifications makes the common roots of Nordic, German, Dutch and English stand out. But why not go back to the original "Thorn" Þ rather than Z for "Th" ? Because it hasn't been on a typewriter since 1367? ROFL! Actually thorn was substituted with Y for awhile, hence the signs such as "Ye olde Inn". It was never meant to be pronounced 'ye,' but rather was just a vaguely visually similar substitute spelling since thorn was falling out of common usage. It was pronounced 'the' just as today; of course, many people today do not know the medaeval spelling rules, and some who do read it incorrectly on purpose for comedic effect, like that skit where a child was reading from a Bible with long s (which looks a lot like f) and butchering it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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