EskeRahn
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34 minutes ago, netman said:
[heavy breathing]
A bit more relevant:
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...E.g. see this IBM 3179 terminal keyboard with coloured and grey keys without print
(BTW note the distinction between Carriage Return end Enter)
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If we do not want to 'lock' specific functions to the keys @Craig labeled as Sym and ⬈ above we could have some 'neutral' geometric shapes (e.g. arrow, circle, square...) in different colours or shapes, and then let the OS+layout combination define the actual functions as most suitable. E.g. AltGr or Sym might be vital in some combinations, but a complete waste of key(s) in others.
I have previously encountered keyboards with coloured squares.
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6 minutes ago, Slion said:
Free Pro1 X? Where do I sign?
At the bottom of this blank piece of paper please...
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3 hours ago, brunoais said:
Can't do CTRL+Shift+Arrow on that one... So, not my "walk in the part"
Yeah, that would require to let go the left hand while using say left index finger for the arrows. I use the combo for marking too, but not so often that I would find a changed grib problematic.
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15 minutes ago, matf said:
I find it awkward to have /? out of the way, separated by keys that are supposed to be in a different block on regular keyboards. The reordered modifiers on the left does not really work for me, we lose many of the easier combinations we were talking about in previous posts. However I find it interesting that the new layouts we now come up with imply huge losses; that was not the case a few days ago and it might show that we finally reached a good level of optimization.
The whole idea was to have both Shift+Altgr and Shift+Ctrl as one-thumb presses. The price of a slightly moved slash seems low to me.
Also remember than in combinations like Ctrl+Alt to my knowledge Ctrl+AltGr is doing the same, so that would still be available as one thumb.
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Just a thought more, We could move the whole arrow block one key to the left, this will allow for a modifier close to Shift on the right.... (obviously this will push the "/" key right of the Up-Key)
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there is a Pro extra on the first layout by Craig above (thinkpad-style) that some stuff distinguishes between right and left ctrl, but as standard only has one Fn, AltGr and sym, no distinction is needed on the two. But obviously it makes shift+ctrl harder.
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Also remember Ctrl+F5 in browsers...
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2 hours ago, Craig said:
So another idea. After justifying moving del and removing slant arrow etc, more than one person told me they'd rather have Del has an additional function of backspace than a dedicated key to the left of spacebar. Of course, this would have to be handled by customized layouts for each OS, but not having a delete key is perfectly fine (can use right arrow then backspace for same thing) but not having a slash key is very very very annoying.
If possible on all OS I would prefer it secondary on BS too. But remember Del have other delete functions than deleting a character in a text-editor. It is generally used to delete a selected object in many situations. E.g. deleting a file in a file manager. So would be missed in some contexts if omitted,
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1 hour ago, Craig said:
Well if we're gunna get that detailed...what color code for blue? this is 40E0D0 (turquoise). When I tried a color code for saphire it was hard to see on the dark background...
I think you got an important point there, the exact colour in thin print close to a dark surrounding will be hard to see. The globe in your print shows the problem, even in the brighter colour,
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1 hour ago, Adrienspawn said:
The case was meant to be included with preorders and then available for purchase, so I don't think it's too much to ask that we not be relegated to 3D-printing our own ugly ones. I'm not a designer but I don't see it being difficult. My preference is for OtterBox style.
The bottom part is straight forward, but the upper....
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An issue to remember with alternatives to the layout. The keys are small. Except some rare cases with small symbols like for diacritics, generally more than two symbols on the key would just require the print to be so small that it could be more or less illegible, perhaps except for those with eagle eyes.
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5 hours ago, Adrienspawn said:
I just wish it had a real case. Have been lucky enough so far to place it carefully on clean surfaces, but I would feel much better and more classy with a leather case.
Would be cool with a dedicated case. But I think it is close to impossible less some compromises...
- As can be seen in other threads, some have created their 3D-printed cases, and though this for some is an ideal solution, for others the blocking the screen edges is an issue. (But for some even a bonus!)
- Another possibility is a flip-case. Not ideal for all either, as we (obviously) need to flip it open to use the phone. Again for some acceptable, for others not.
- Finally is the half solution (that is part of both the above) to only protect the lower half, And though better than nothing clearly not ideal either.
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9 hours ago, Adrienspawn said:
I maintain that it is in poor taste to be upgrading the RAM in newer models by 33% while leaving the screen and microphone issues unfixed.
Apart from what @VaZsoalready said. These two components are most likely super easy to change in the production line, not having to do anything else than mount a logically different chip. More drastic changes are less easy, and would most likely require changes of drivers too (and worst case some new certifications). My guess would be that they do not need to change a single line of code for the memory&storage upgrades. Perhaps a config file, if the chip does not report the size itself.
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1 hour ago, BufferBear said:
Thank you very much, Eske. Your language skills are not the issue and are far better than mine. I only speak English! The issue was not understanding what the disadvantages are with Lineage as an Android user without technical knowledge. I'm curious and want to explore other options. I've just posted on IndieGoGo with a similar question but I think I will just settle with Lineage and learn how to change to Android if needed. I was interested to hear Chen & Co on the video footage suggesting both OS can be added by way of partitioning. I'm not sure what this means IT-wise and assume the OS can be loaded in two different sections of the memory, thus, the ability to switch to both.
Thanks very much for taking the time to reply.
Yes as I understand it they are experimenting with "dual boot", allowing us to have more than one system on the device at a time. And with 256GB, splitting it should not be a problem for the majority.
I personally hope for the ability to have a primary Lineage partition, and then a small one with Stock Android for any picky apps, that will not run on Lineage. (And for debugging if something do not run as expected under Lineage)-
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25 minutes ago, OKSun said:
What does our forum moderator think?
Like the idea. Though one could say that it would be more suited in a LineagOS forum, as it is not limited to the Pro1 / Pro1x.
And perhaps it already exists there? And a new thread here with a post linking to the general forum would be a better option, benefiting more users.-
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2 hours ago, swac said:
(Mail from septemer, 24th)
Ah well then at the least we know they got the request! My guess is that it is these odd UK banking rules that are teasing again, I bet the top dogs has been super busy with e pro1x launch. But let us tag @Erik just to be sure.
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2 hours ago, OKSun said:
I would like to know whether bank / payment apps will work with lineage... and this in the long term
Well we can not in anyway guess what requirements bank may come up with, so guess that will be impossible to answer...
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I really hope they find a way to get dual boot working with the Pro1X software.
Then I would be using Lineage as the daily driver, And have a clean stock android for the few apps I rarely use, that has special requirements.-
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34 minutes ago, swac said:
I still have no refund and they don´t answer my mails!
What should I do? Anyone has an idea?
Their mailing system is made in such a way the at new mails pushes the old one back in the queue along with the new one, so they can be handled as one.. The downside of this is that with multiple mails, they might never even have seen your original one.
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1 hour ago, Craig said:
it sacrifices dedicated Del key, and suggests it as a super function for backspace which I dont know if this could really work in firmware either, so probably not the best idea.
I very much like this idea!
In the Danish for shifted QwertY FinQwerty layout I suggested something similar. But @Anssi Hannula explained that it was not technically possible and Del ended up being moved to another key(!).
But it might be possible to do the move if done somewhat deeper. LineageOS uses some tricks here for the mappings that might be adapted for stock too?-
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2 hours ago, netman said:
Why would you want a locked bootloader with Lineage though?
@ToniCipriani posted in another thread on BYOD to a company requiring it to be locked.
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1 hour ago, BufferBear said:
Thanks for feeding back but unfortunately I do not understand. I'm wondering whether to choose the Pro1x with Lineage or Android and I'm guessing the latter given I didn't comprehend your post. I'm not techie but just liked the idea of using a different OS...probably out of my league.
Thank you, @EskeRahn
Sorry for being unclear - not a native English speaker.
The only difference will be what is pre-installed when you get it. And possibly a logo print on the back.
So it does not really matter what OS you choose, you can swap later as you please.There will be guides on how to do that. (I believe they are working on making it even easier than t is on the existing Pro1)
They are even talking about "dual boot" so we can install more than one system and select at boot time. 😁-
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Pro1, Ghost touches and other digitizer and display issues
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It looks like it is right about the magnet & hal-detector pair. Does it do the same if you squeeze the top display part opened? If not what about the bottom part?
My GUESS would be that the hall sensor somehow interferes with the display...