Gon009 70 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Because on this forum most of people are first batchers, I have an offer for you. I will buy your Pro1 but the shipping must be from Europe, the phone must be QWERTY version. I pay 739 euro + shipping costs. If you don't want to list it on any trustable website because of fees, you WILL have to send a PayPal Invoice. The box can be opened but the phone must be intact and should be working on Android without any modifications. You will have to provide photos of a box and of the device if the box was opened(you can blur IMEI and things like that). The shipping must be done by parcel company like DHL(no local post services) and should be done the next day after payment. Please send me a private message here on forums if you are interested. Edited November 26, 2019 by Gon009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcdinner 375 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 1,435 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gon009 said: this forum most of people are first batchers I think you severely overestimate the size of the first batch. P.S. But come to think of it, I recall earlier you invented the 3rd batch, so maybe you mean second batchers. In which case, true. Edited November 26, 2019 by Craig postscript 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchattengestaIt 559 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Soooo... you are basically offering the regular (current) price with quite a few (though reasonable) demands to buy weeks to months? Doesn't sound like the best offer to me. If you really want the phone now, you should probably start from 800€ upwards. For a 20€ win margin nobody will face the trouble to sell you a brand new phone, shipping it to you and making sure that he doesn't too much money with fees. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, SchattengestaIt said: Soooo... you are basically offering the regular (current) price with quite a few (though reasonable) demands to buy weeks to months? Doesn't sound like the best offer to me. If you really want the phone now, you should probably start from 800€ upwards. For a 20€ win margin nobody will face the trouble to sell you a brand new phone, shipping it to you and making sure that he doesn't too much money with fees. Yep......betting no one who already has one will part with it for less than 1K before general availability hits. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gon009 70 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Craig said: I think you severely overestimate the size of the first batch. P.S. But come to think of it, I recall earlier you invented the 3rd batch, so maybe you mean second batchers. In which case, true. I know the size of first batch, forums are barely alive and most of people who write are the same people who already got their phones. Second batch wasn't even sent to warehouses and there's almost no chance to get phones before Christmas or maybe even before end of 2019. It seems that everyone gets the same time now, including me who was way behind every order because I wasn't IGG backer and my payment mail wasn't properly sent because of magical issues, so either Fxtec lies as usual or got hit so hard by refunds that I entered 2nd batch. Anyway, I started emails to support from time to time with questions about shipping and they always reply my with my date + the same number of days so it's not coming any closer. 5 hours ago, SchattengestaIt said: Soooo... you are basically offering the regular (current) price with quite a few (though reasonable) demands to buy weeks to months? Doesn't sound like the best offer to me. If you really want the phone now, you should probably start from 800€ upwards. For a 20€ win margin nobody will face the trouble to sell you a brand new phone, shipping it to you and making sure that he doesn't too much money with fees. Still worth a try, for a phone with many software issues maybe someone would like to sell it now. It was already listed on ebay once for cheaper, maybe there are more people but want to avoid 10% fee. Phone is not worth more than 800 euros and anyone offering or demanding that much would be an idiot unless Fxtec goes out of business and nobody else gets their phones which is probable. Also, keep in mind that everyone who got their phones now paid 649 euro + shipping costs, so I am offering 90 euros more than paid, with shipping costs it's around 65 euros gain, 10% of price. Edited November 27, 2019 by Gon009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Well I offer to pay $2000 plus the shipping cost. Message me if anyone is interested in selling 2 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illie-vanilli 58 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Gon009 said: Also, keep in mind that everyone who got their phones now paid 649 euro + shipping costs, so I am offering 90 euros more than paid, with shipping costs it's around 65 euros gain, 10% of price. What you also seem to forget is that the people who are in first batch are also the people who REALLY want this phone, so what I would think is that if any of those people would be willing to sell it is merely to give their device up now and to get to the back of the 'queue' to get the product again. But, if they have to re-order now to get the device again they pay the price you are offering now... It's not really a good deal if you think of it. Also, most people who are on this forum are in second batch, if you look at the forum-post on sharing either TN or that they received phone not many people replied to that.. So that assumption is kinda false.. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_DW_ 628 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) @illie-vanilli has a point most first batch'ers have wanted the mod they have been waiting years can't see them parting with it. Why not but the one on ebay 😄 Edited November 27, 2019 by _DW_ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Gon009 said: Also, keep in mind that everyone who got their phones now paid 649 euro + shipping costs, so I am offering 90 euros more than paid, with shipping costs it's around 65 euros gain, 10% of price. It is like saying you would want to buy an old painting slightly over the price it was sold for originally... As the price has gone up, people can not even get back in queue for a new one with a substantial profit, so realistically the only ones that would find your offer interesting would be any disliking the Pro1 and regretting having bought it. And sure it is likely that some will feel that way, but hardly among the most eager ones that are in the first batch.... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PC_ 61 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 You'd be better off offering F(x)Tec more more for a "Priority" order. If you offer enough they might hand deliver it themselves gift wrapped. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, PC_ said: You'd be better off offering F(x)Tec more more for a "Priority" order. If you offer enough they might hand deliver it themselves gift wrapped. I did, but they are not interested 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, kashif said: I did, but they are not interested Try adding more digits... 🤪🤣 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Try adding more digits... 🤪🤣 Well its not very funny Especially for someone who gets an email to pay immediately in order to get device before October. and its December now 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcdinner 375 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 sry, had to do this. I will behave myself now... i swear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcdinner 375 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 So now real question, is it really worth 2k or even just 800 to get a device now? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, mcdinner said: So now real question, is it really worth 2k or even just 800 to get a device now? i don't think its worth 2k its just me who is willing to spend that much 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, mcdinner said: So now real question, is it really worth 2k or even just 800 to get a device now? Well if people got a broken device, and the alternative is to buy an intermediate device, for use while waiting only, well then an overprice could make sense. But personally I would not even sell it for $2000. If one added a digit in front, I would consider it.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, EskeRahn said: Well if people got a broken device, and the alternative is to buy an intermediate device, well then an overprice could make sense. But personally I would not even sell it for $2000. If one added a digit in front, I would consider it.... I dont think any one can be that fool to spend 20k on something that will last one or two years 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, kashif said: I dont think any one can be that fool to spend 20k on something that will last one or two years There might be, but sort of would be sad if people that had that much money to waste did not use them for some better stuff like charity. (Splitting sticks 20 would be a digit behind, in front could be a 1 to 12) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raksura 270 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Well if people got a broken device, and the alternative is to buy an intermediate device, for use while waiting only, well then an overprice could make sense. But personally I would not even sell it for $2000. If one added a digit in front, I would consider it.... I'm sure kashif would go for $02000. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 yep, its also sad some abuse honest people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeZtdevice 303 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, _DW_ said: @illie-vanilli has a point most first batch'ers have wanted the mod they have been waiting years can't see them parting with it. Why not but the one on ebay 😄 Exactly since 03.03.2017, backer no. 30 🙂 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,471 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Raksura said: I'm sure kashif would go for $02000. Touché 😁 Glad I wrote "consider". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kashif 350 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 So maybe ill remind what was said in the email asking for payment Quote There is high demand for Pro1’s and we endeavour to dispatch your order within the above timescale. To manage this, we will be implementing a ‘first come – first served’ approach based on pre-order customer who complete payment. To avoid disappointment and ensuring delivery in September please confirm payment for your Pro1 as soon as you receive the payment request email. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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