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I am pretty sure there will never be an official Android 10 or 11 for the original Pro1. All development efforts target the Pro1X by now. As @VaZso wrote, Lineage 17.1 and 18.1 are available for the Pro1, and are technically equivalent to Android 10 and 11. Lineage 19.0 is already in preparation. However, I have doubts that your security auditors will consider a custom ROM as equivalent to an official Android provided by the device manufacturer when it comes to certifications.2 points
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November 2020 backer of the Pro1-X and first-time poster here. F(x)Tec's February update on IGG says they are due to start manufacturing when Shiyan, in the Bao'an district of Shenzhen, "come[s] out of covid lockdown next week." I found this post on Baidu (in Chinese) stating that many restrictions in Shiyan were being lifted on 20 February, now two days ago. I think the speculation that the February update was written in relation to last week is correct. It's also possible that F(x)Tec really was expecting restrictions to be lifted next week, and it turned out they were lifted early2 points
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That is very interesting, I'll be curious to see what happens over the next week or two. AT&T cut service to my BB Key2 about 2 weeks ago and wouldn't even discuss turning it back on.1 point
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What area are you in? I'd consider T-Mobile, but I'm in the north Georgia mountains. In the past T-Mobile didn't have good signal here. Also, I received two emails from FxTec support today responding to my requests. They have officially taken note of the USA carrier issue and appear to be looking into what to do about it!1 point
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So far service continues to work without issue, even tested it with a friend with a different device on ATT that they said would not work after Feb 22, but so far so good. I do think this is on activating a new device, I think they are grandfathering in and it seems they are not targeting any specific IMEIs to disable. My hunches at least for the moment, but good to know about T-mobile if the need to switch happens. p.s. Sprint is now T-mobile1 point
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Since I have installed LineageOS on my Pro1, I am much happier. 🙂 So by installing current LineageOS (18.1), you will have an Android 11 device with much more optimized speed. If you also need SafetyNet working, you need to use Magisk but that way also NFC payment is working for me which was unsupported on stock firmware.1 point
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My mouse pointer keeps hovering over the "Pre-Order" button on the website 🤨 I could just click it but I've got priorities like moving house before taking the plunge.1 point
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I'm not about to declare that I'm in the clear at all but it's now 11:30am ET on Feb 22nd and my phone is still working (phone calls and messaging) on AT&T. @Fullmetaljacket223@EskeRahn can we get the thread title updated to include AT&T also? I had the thought last night that this effort may have to involve complaints filed to the FCC. FCC complaints usually get responses (at least with cable TV services). But I suspect whatever laws/regulations allow the providers to decline service / say what is allowed. @suicidal_orangeI probably made 4/5 calls about this subject t1 point
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The reason that prior to this year, you could use any phone with compatible tech was in the technology of the service itself. With gsm and CDMA, the carrier had no access to what type or which device you were using. You could switch sims, modify your phone settings, whatever you wanted. The service had to accept the requests made by your device by default. Enter: LTE/5g, which are data based. Now the carrier has effectively a "live internet feed" to your device and sim, they know everything about it. They're in a position that can allow them control over us. This is all a new thing howev1 point
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And so perhaps, part of our proposal and discussion with the carriers could include a testing period to check device functionality and reception, because we don't want it to reflect negatively on the carrier. Of course that is IF they want to bring that up as a reason for denial. This could all go smoothly or we may have to fight a list of reasons they want to say no.1 point
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Right, but they may refuse it referring to an unknown behaviour or potentionally malfunctioning device which may affects the usability of their network and may lead higher load for their customer support (also because of problems potentially caused by device and also because of unsupported bands [checking and explaining it for customer] and also because having more devices, being harder to provide specific support for all of them). The above may be a theoretical explanation of why they don't accept phones from other sources. ...but the truth it is very convenient for them having to supp1 point
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My GUESS would be that if a device support some (or even most), but not all of the bands the carrier offers, they will be reluctant to let it into their net. Simply because the bad experience of "poor coverage" most often fall back on the carrier, even if it actually is the phone that can not use the bands offered in the area in question. This dialogue is not uncommon: "I got a lousy signal here! - What carrier are you using? - XXX - Ahh, damned XXX" ...1 point
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To reply to all of you, this far T-Mobile seems to be using the fact that people are getting denied from at&t and verizon to their advantage. They'll accept pretty much any compatible phone from over seas. Now when they shut down their old network this coming December.. that could change. But that's a year away. As for getting the phones working with the other big 2, bare in mind: we are not asking these carriers to SELL the phones, brand them, nothing like that. Simply, to add them to their system of approved devices so that they are not denied service. That is not much to as1 point
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I understand your point of view, but I bet that the work it would require to persuade huge tele-companies to care about a tiny player like FxTec would far exceed any profit they could gain by additional sales. If they felt they could sell say 10K extra Pro1(X) it would obviously be a different story, and they could ask with a punch with a little weight. I think that the original idea of this thread with a user group is much more likely to have any leverage. It could potentially give bad press of the tele-giants not caring about customers, by stirring up commotion and thus will have muc1 point
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Honestly fxtec should be more concerned about getting these approvals. If I can't use the device on a carrier of my choice, I'm not going to get it, regardless of how good or novel it is. That only limits their already limited pool of buyers1 point
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The fxtec pro 1 absolutely has everything it needs to operate fully in the att network on 4g lte with hd voice. I'm using it now. I specifically set it to only use 4g probably 6 months ago. I do get a couple dead spots but it's not jumping down to 3g. I fear it won't help me come tomorrow (I had found Feb 22nd as the official day they kill off their 3g network), but on the chance they let devices that have the technology, there's a chance. When I first started dealing with this the 6 months ago or whatever I tried talking to multiple AT&t customer service people through their 6111 point
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I have a battery but a broken battery connector cable. So if your battery still has a intact cable, we might be able to get a complete battery.0 points