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By the way, I did buy one (which just got released by US customs after a paperwork snafu that doesn't usually happen in the US), but not for me. I talked two friends into buying a Pro1x. One received his in August and I just wanted to be sure my other friend would get his. I will wait for mine from FxTec and if they come through, I will end up with two Pro1xs because my friend will send me his if it arrives from FxTec. I did not buy one of these for myself. I still have faith in FxTec. I know they will come through if they can. And if they can't, it won't be because they were eit

A couple of things. I don't think Expansys USA exists anymore. It may have been an off-shoot of the original operation, but not the exactly the same. Expansys in Asia has been pretty dependable over the years (I used them long ago and they have always been FxTec's shipping partner). Secondly, Fxtec has stated in Discord discussions that they will back the warranty on the Expansys sold models.

Please stop. You made your points, there are people here who invested in this project knowing that, you are doing a disservice to the intent of the project and to those that have supported this from the start, many of us have the Pro1 or supported it since then and see this is a project worth backing. You approach amounts to not achieving anything if whomever you are advocating for put money in through IGG then they need to read what that actually means. I have had my pro1 serviced and supported and I myself support the group even though the Pro1 is not my daily driver. But many of u

I think it's all antennae and movment. Stand still with it and GPS will eventually pick up. Move and it goes all over the show. Same with Bluetooth, same with Wifi, same with mobile phone signal. Bluetooth is the most annoying as running with it is near impossible unless I want it to keep cutting out every few seconds. Please do report toi FXTec. The response today to me chasing up is that they are investigating but IU've asked for an ETA and if there are logs or things I can do to help them.

Interesting theory. But it is both (most of) batch 1 and 2 that have been sent to "our warehouse", and never any further, so it would have to be both batches they sold for your theory to explain what is going on. But sure your theory could be correct if the first batches were fundamentally flawed, and they sold them of cheap and are producing new ones. I doubt it very much though, since if so it would be hard to honestly label the cause as "contractual issues with our partner in Hong Kong". - note by the way that they state issues in plural... It is a bit mysterious how they as early

Food for Thought. Thank you for that.

So back in the when - back when I placed the order for my husband's phone - they asked me if I wanted Batch 1 or Batch 2. I had picked Batch 1. Waiting you know? Then a bit later they said that there were some suspected problems with Batch 1, but I could get it anyways if I was willing to take the risk. I opted for Batch 2 😄 So this whole thread is making me wonder. Rather than lose money on all those batch 1 phones what if fxtec decided "Hey, let's sell these dirt cheap or bulk to someone overseas?" I mean - the devices were already IN Asia, so shipping wouldn't be all that much all thing

Hmmm bummer. I was hoping everyone was getting the intermittent "lost signal" as other recent pro1x recipients on discord are also having it. My signal appears strong and connected to plenty of satellites when I check it with gps checking software, so that doesn't seem to be my issue. In any case sounds like it's worth holding out on firmware before trying for warranty repair. (I never had Pro¹ or any other phone report gps signal lost while navigating til this Pro¹-X).

I fear that is exactly what is going on. BUT if Expansys have erhm appropriated the devices that was allocated to us, I doubt very much that we or FxTec would get them back from them no matter what. But yes there certainly is a risk that we are buying erhm appropriated goods here.... So I would love to hear an official statement from FxTec on how they see things.

Most likely Expansys mislabeled. FedEx did the same when delivering my Pro1 to me after it was repaired at F(x)tec. Which leads to the annoying situation, that despite being the importer, you can not influence the customs process. Basically, FedEx was holding my package hostage and threatening to send it back, if I don't agree to them taking care of the customs process and paying them for it.

Unfortunately, this seems to be very similar situation that Jolla had with crowdfunded tablets back in 2015. Jolla had some financial issues and was not able to pay already produced units to the manufacturer. Then manufacturer decided to sell the tablets. Jolla tried to buy some units back but was able to get small batch to the backers. - https://reviewjolla.blogspot.com/2016/02/jolla-tablets-in-china.html?m=1 - https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-closure/ Hopefully F(x)tec can either produce more units or get phones back from Expansys.

It's really hilarious: to make thing exactly the opposite of intended way: - If you funded early on Indiegogo, you get no phone and no refund; - If you waited one year and then decided to pre-order on the website, you have your money locked for a year more, but now you get a refund and can buy the phone cheap on Expansys - If you do not back and do not preorder, you can just buy the phone from stock on half the initial price! Those who defend such an unethical way to do the business are either out of their mind or suffering from heavy Stockholm syndrome case.