EskeRahn

Welcome. Yes the 'dead-key' approach has been mentioned, though especially in the thread on the German layout. And indeed it is a solution to supporting many languages with a common keyboard. I hope we will have the option to remap things quite generally so we could make practically any logical layout, no matter what is printed on the keys. Currently the suggested German QWERTZ keyboard are closer to Danish than the standard right-shifted QWERTY, as we also got national letters right of L and P, so that would be a better print for me, so only a few keys shows something different from what th

Never tried SailFish myself, but found this "Hands On & Demo" video from here But can't see why this could not work on a 'bezelled' display also.

Would be nice if they get one. Perhaps if the screen is identical to one used on a more common model, we could get one for that one. The dimensions seems rather close to the Meizu 16(x), so perhaps that is a match? If not my personal fall back plan is to try if a tempered glass protector for a Samsung S8+ or S9+ has the right side curvature (the width is 0.2 mm larger resp. smaller) and then use a glass-cutter to shorten it sufficiently. And if that fails too my fall-back plan is to get plain foil-protectors for one or the other. those should be easy to cut.

Spot on in my book!. A landscape keyboard slider is MUCH more important to me than if the edges are curved or not.

We might be dinosaurs, but I at the least do not want to go back to neither monochrome, non-touch nor vga... ;). So I hope we all agree that we want a modernised version not a replica of what we had. I personally don't have neither a strong urge for nor grudge against curved screens. As I wrote earlier I did dislike them until I actually got a device with it (Priv), and found my fears of the discomfort to be hugely exaggerated. On the pro-side it allows for a larger screen at the same size device, and allows for swipes on SailFish - and despite sounding odd I believe also easier to get and

I think there are many variants, not limited to German Here is another one The aPple guys seem to like this variant The REASON for the at first odd arrow down stems back from the time of typewriters, before the up arrow was used for Shift, and Shift-Lock was a key that physically stayed down, and forced the whole set of arms to shift up, so we got the lower symbol of each hammer when hitting the roll, and thus had the upper case letters AND the symbols on the number keys active. See e.g. this (the shift lock was released pressing shift) ADD: And BTW this is also why the term "Shift"

Agree on that one, it just looks odd in my eyes, also on the QWERTY.

How about Android One? Does the existence of the keyboard require any OS-changes (not allowed in A1) or can it be logically handled as any external BT-keyboard? Or perhaps using the Accessibility API? The Nokia 9 uses Android One, so it is not just entry levels phones using it any more. As far as I know adding an optional launcher is allowed, so that should also work with your landscape optimised launcher. It could be a really nice way to simplify things and also assure the security updates for at the least two years. The question was also posed as part of this post, but never answered

I'm quite sure they're aware that there is an optimisation phase of things before release.... They just showed that the principle of an added feature works. Even the hardware we see it used on is unlikely to be the final version... Let us await a release candidate before judging anything.

The preorder page (still) says We are working hard to get the first orders shipped to customers in July 2019. so I assume that is still the best estimate they got.

I love removable backs and batteries too! My ancient 2011 SonyEricsson (neo) Pro has it. And it has a wonderful additional advantage: Take out the battery, take a piece of slightly stiff plastic (e.g. window from envelope, or a piece of tape doubled on it self) and put between the battery and electrodes while reinserting, and the battery can EASILY last a year! PERFECT for storage of a spare phone in e.g. a glove compartment of a car. And if you want to keep an old device without having to keep charging the device. I have used that for my spare/old phones as long as I can remember - and t

*LOL* Same here we both lack "German abbreviations I". My first thought was "Strange" *LOL* (it stands for "Steuerung" though - etymologically same word as English "steering")

This is the least bad I can do to make something that looks somewhat like a yellow arrow † key †

Looks better. And even if PRINTED as YellowArrow (we almost need a BBCode for that one *LOL* ), the strokes of the ones on the second lowest and the top row could ALSO be made available by shift, to make the functionality closer to the PC-experience, that is in software let BOTH YellowArrow+8 and Shift+8 give the same "(".

I believe that can be more or less achieved by moving the yellow print down (like the sketch of the 7 above)

Indeed yes, important point. A Caps-lock, not a Shift-lock like old typewriters. :-)

e.g. like this rough sketch for the 7-key

actually we could get even closer if the values on the number rows also moves to SHIFT, somewhat like here from this (with the blue printed in yellow, and perhaps moved up)

Very good suggestion, especially a nice idea with braces and bracket (and others) close® to their usual pc-positions. A few of the ones in the second lowest row ">", ";", ":" and "_" I believe should be moved left on the keys to SHIFT position and not AltGr/YellowArrow position

It is, see e.g. this

That may go for US/UK layout, but certainly not for national keyboards. The AltGr is the way to access the stuff moved away to free the national letter keys... e.g. brackets and braces moved to AltGr 7-0, and AltGr and key left of Z to get backslash. Also access to €@£$ and the tilde as an accent are all through AltGr. But that said it of course does not matter if the key is labelled as a yellow arrow or the (odd) "AltGr"

I think it is much up to the app what it reacts to. But for sure when they write their own email program optimised for landscape, I too hope they remember the various ctrl-navigation functionality.

Does the last part mean that the users can swap the keyboard themselves? That is that we can all safely pre-order the US model, and then later swap the keyboard if/when a layout fitting our needs better will be produced later on? If so do you have an estimate for the price of an additional keyboard?

I guess it is a transitional problem, but could be handy yes. I opened all threads, took a few minutes, but it worked.

I hope for that too. I like the "Open Camera" app using the Camera2 API.