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Various questions to the PRO1 not yet answered
EskeRahn replied to zernag's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Well rowos it is also a matter of how 'deep' in the hand it is resting. Try to take a large phablet or pocket calculator and place it in landscape resting on the outer two/three joints of two/three fingers, and support it with ringfinger/pinky you will see that you can keep a secure grip and have a huge range with the thumbs. We would naturally place a smaller device with the corners in the palms, but it is not a must for a secure grib -
Various questions to the PRO1 not yet answered
EskeRahn replied to zernag's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Thanks for the report dt.white, took the liberty to edit your comment so it looks as I assume you intended, and reported the bug to the developers. (Got no answers for your questions though, will try and ask someone) -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
zimeon Many keyboards with common Scandinavian layout crack the problems with three colours. Swedes, Danes and Norwegians can (at the least) all agree on the Å should go next to the P. and in Swedish ÖÄ goes left of the L. But unfortunately Danes and Norwegians disagree on ÆØ or ØÆ left on L.... (for readers outside Scandinavia: Ä=Æ and Ö=Ø) The Norwegian approach of placing them as the Swedes makes much more sense than the Danish swap. I would certainly prefer the keytops with scandinavian print too, But I would MUCH rather have an international 'blanked' layout, where I had to memoris -
Various questions to the PRO1 not yet answered
EskeRahn replied to zernag's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
The long wait is over... Finally launched :-D -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Oh I certainly hope they will NOT make the right-shift of A-Z on the Scandinavian layout, and thus have æøå/äöå on native keys next to P and L The right-shift could by fine for the US layout, but not for international ones with national letters. Personally I would prefer a US layout without the right shift, so letters and digits are aligned as standard, but that is of course a matter of taste whether the centring is more or less important than standard relative positions of letters&digits. I would start with something like this mock up for a general international keyboard. It coul -
There are a few more sources... But from how I read what it says on twitter, we will know more in a few days before MWC is over.
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I can supplement with a few more sources From Twitter, and the old Moto Mod campaign, both Updates and Comments. And finally an additional image that allegedly shows the device behind a couple of old Nokias on NokiaMob. I tried to extract the info from the various sources here But from how I read what it says on twitter, we will know more in a few days before MWC is over.
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Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
You were right with you assumption slion, on the device heading for the MWC, Just got a newsletter saying so :-D -
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Well shani I think that Likes can be pretty useful in forum, rather than a lot of people writing 'me too' in a bunch of different ways. A simple Like can help others see that several share the view-point. (I assume that is what is meant by the suggested "ratings")
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Spotted this on twitter, that shows a bit more of the keyboard https://twitter.com/thefxtec/status/1097878591797428231
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I hope for 'hard' key surface too. The Priv does it in a 9.4mm 'thick' slider body, so far from unobtainable. Also look at the click-on keyboards for the Samsung Galaxy devices adding only 3mm. I'm not a big fan of 'rubber' surface keys like many pocket calculators, so hope that it will not be like that. But i'm not so optimistic hoping that they can squeeze in pc-keyboard style individual key-mechanism giving the same click all over each key. I guess that the activation and 'click' will be by clicking a 'dome', like its is used for (almost) all compact keyboards. And often under each pc
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Alternative OS availability, common entry
EskeRahn replied to EskeRahn's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
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Here is what we currently know on alternative operating systems. Tech savvy users will also be pleased to know that we’ll support other independent, community-driven OSes beyond Android. We’ll offer loaner devices and driver support (under NDA) to core developers. We’ve already approached to some Lineage OS developers as a first step and plan to work with Sailfish OS developers & other communities. Our hope is to build a handset that runs your favourite OS. from the January 16 newsletter https://www.fxtec.com/the-keyboard-smartphone-youve-been-waiting-for-software/ (I have merge
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Various questions to the PRO1 not yet answered
EskeRahn replied to zernag's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Well Craig we DO have some bits and pieces on the size in the newsletters and the updates from the Moto Mod that can be pieced together. I have ESTIMATED it to be ROUGHLY 151 x 74 x 13mm here. But please don't take these as accurate, it is from what we can deduce of what has been said and shown on some prototypes. ..So it is fairly sure that is going to be easier to pocket than the Moto Z series. And certainly easier than a Moto Z with the QWERTY MOD. ;) ADD: The real size was not far off : 154 x 73.6 x 13.98 mm. (so slightly less wide, and slightly thicker than my estimates) -
Good news osamagirl69 If you look at the images in the newsletters https://www.fxtec.com/otherhardwarespecs/ https://www.fxtec.com/the-smartphone-you-thought-you-couldnt-have-keyboard/ You can clearly see TWO Ctrl buttons on the five rows keyboard. :-) (And the @ on the 2 key the 'standard' way)
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Various questions to the PRO1 not yet answered
EskeRahn replied to zernag's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
I too prefer a lesser size. But I look at it from a very practical angle: 1) A rather small portion of users still want QWERTY hardware keyboards 2) Only a portion of these want sliders 3) Only a portion of these want landscape sliders 4) A rather small portion of users still want phone sized devices. So aiming at all in the same device would most likely be for a such limited user segment that it would become very expensive to cover the development, and that would reduce the potential user group further... So I would MUCH rather have a phablet sized QWERTY-slider that can be realis -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
I'm not sure if I get your idea completely Phoenix. Do you want it limited to the fractions represented by one character (that can be hard to get to) like "¾" or as a sequence of strokes like "5/16" ? To my knowledge the only predefined fractions in unicode are these seven+two ⅛ ¼ ⅜ ½ ⅝ ¾ ⅞ and ⅓ ⅔ -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Personally I would love to see multiple keymaps like the above added for every key on the keyboard (including spacebar, arrow keys, etc), just have them set to default keys upon launch, but then let users modify the keymaps to whatever they want. This would let users specify whatever key combinations they want, non-english layouts, unimplemented custom keys (like home/end/pgup/pgdn/insert), etc. Sounds great to me lameboyadvance, and especially if the key-mapings could be saved in a way, so us nerds could share them with less tech savy users. -
Reply to static_typer, February 18, 2019 at 11:08 am Obscure choice of key positions. The numeric keys are misaligned with the alphabet keys by one position to the right. For example, above the ‘Q’ key are 2 and 3. On any standard keyboard, it should be 1 and 2. I too find that rather odd. I do understand the WHY to centre the letters to ease two-thumbs usage, but to me the price of the misalignment is not a good balance. Another way could be to move the plus to a secondary position on the minus key. Though an important symbol, the plus is used far less than the dash and the digits for
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Various questions to the PRO1 not yet answered
EskeRahn replied to zernag's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Some questions has net not been answered initially at the official launch. I will move them here from other threads, to keep them together. E.g questions such as regional availability, layouts available and specs not yet published (or hard to find). (above edited after the lauch) -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
to this from the above So I’d always take another symbol key over a shortcut. I'm totally with you on that, dicer :) On my old keyboard case for the Iphone 6- I loved that there were keys for a range of combinations of shift keys. I even made a small table I had on the device, to find the more odd ones, I did not remember.by heart. And I would have loved easy access to even more. - The most common emojis too. -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Just a thought that might work. a 'macro' like shortcut that could send a series of key strokes. It is possible in Android, I know that e.g. "Android Assistant" and "Greenify" does that to 'kill' a program (opens settings and 'presses' stop). Other use the same idea. It is the "Accessibility" interface. Imagine the users has a program where they always start by selecting a particular tab or function... In an advanced version AND integrated with fingerprint authentication, it could even send passwords to program login for programs not supporting fingerprint authentication. Of course this -
Keyboard print layouts and functionality
EskeRahn replied to caymen's topic in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
Personally I never really uses the short cuts except by accident. But the idea is nice, and hopefully the user can customize them as they please. I'm not sure about Android but on Ios to my surprise some programs correctly reacts to Ctrl-short cuts like Ctrl-Z, as well as C,V,X,... So that kind of 'short cuts' I hope will be supported too. :) -
I hope so too, but would put phones such as the Sony Ericsson Xperia (Neo) pro on the list too. I loved my Nokia N97 mini too - except the display that was horrible in sunlight. :)