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HA! Add me to the pop-up grammar thread. :-)

Did you see the 2X ultra cover? :-)

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with having something like that over the top. It just isn't my personal choice. I had one of the otterbox complete covered cases on my youngest daughter's tableT and phone for years.

Alternatively, @silversolver can go this route:

Personally, I don't want a clear case covering the screen. However, I could see using a clear case as a basis for a bumper setup, where you cut out the case part that is over the display parts of the screen and leave the parts that hug the edges. At least until a proper 3D printed one becomes available.

Those are interesting results, but traceroute does weird things with calculating the latency based on TTL, I think, vs actual pings. What do you get if you ping those DNS servers instead of using traceroute? You mentioned pinging the gateway, but I don't see that test. UPDATE: I just realized it is tracepath, not traceroute. I don't have that, since I'm on Windows. Is it showing the delta between each hop? It must be, since later hops should take longer to get to. If so, then that does make sense. The first hop (to the gateway) is 20+ ms, which is consistent with what we've

I did use USB tethering to create a network with my laptop and that showed low pings. But another form of that would be a good test.

I figured they couldn't do anything about it, since it was part of the adsup system, not developed by them. If there are grammatical issues in any of the google apps, it would be the same thing (although they probably have software scanning for such things :-) ).

Duh, I just now realized that the left side has two points of contact between the bottom and top halves of the phone. The right side only has the back support, not that extra front support. So it would make sense that the right side wouldn't be as stable. I wonder why it was designed like that? I also found that my left side has a small piece of metal sticking up. It almost looked like a wire with my naked eye, but under the camera, it seems like it is a metal tab that is part of some exposed metal piece. ] Zoomed in: Here is the right side: Anyone else c

You jinxed me, @peter.s.fidelman. My right side now sits above the bumper. However, in your defense, I noticed it first thing this morning. I don't know why I didn't notice it last night. And I don't know why it started doing that. I guess when I get my adhesive rubber tape, I'll put some on the back of the screen where it touches the bumpers so that it will have bumpers on both halves of the phone and it will sit tight again. The left side sits on the bumper. The only thing I can think of is that I usually open it from the right side.

Does this mean you are the first Minnesotan with a rooted Pro1?! :-)

Another data point. I tested a Pixel 4 XL (android 10) and it gets about 2-3 ms to the wireless access point, best case scenario. For anyone else testing, if the router is busy with a lot of other devices talking to it, or you have a lot of apps running on the phone at the same time, that can affect the speed too.

What I get out of your test is that your G3 has 9 ms of latency between it and your router. But what we are talking about is that the Pro1 has 20+ ms of latency between it and its wireless gateway/router. This happens whether it is in a terminal app being run as a command or in a graphic android app that implements Ping. If you are saying that possibly the Pro1 isn't giving enough time to the application for doing network processing (or to the drivers), then that could certainly be a possible cause. The only problem with that is that @EskeRahn and I have tested pinging localhost from

He's being dispatched immediately. :-)

Yay! You found it. I am pretty sure that is the one I had used on another phone, but I couldn't find it. In theory, it presses the buttons on the screen for each app. However, it did not work for me when I tried it. My test case is the Chrome browser cache. It still had 520 KB of data in the cache after this application got done. The application shows 0 bytes, but that isn't accurate. Check in Storage->Other Apps->Chrome after running it. YouTube is another app you can use for a test.

I'm not even going to touch this one.

On the wireless front, I did some testing late last night. The laptop used is a Windows 7 laptop with an internal 802.11n adapter I have an 802.11ac adapter, but haven't installed it yet. The router/wireless access point is an ASUS tri-band router, with a 2.4 Ghz radio and two 5.8 Ghz radios. For file transfers, I was running a WebDAV server on the Pro1 and mapping that as a drive letter in Windows Explorer. This approach would only let me send data to the Pro1, not from the Pro1 to the laptop. I'm guessing that is due to the lousy WebDAV client built into Windows. I'll try with a b

An update on the USB to computer issues. I did quite a bit of testing today and reported my findings here. Short description is that it is a bit flaky right now. Your best chance at getting it to work is to enable USB Debugging and, under Windows 7, using PTP, to access the internal store. To get to the SD card, enable USB Debugging and use Windows 10, with File transfer mode (MTP). You may see the device without USB Debugging, but I could not reliably transfer a 1 GB file without it erroring out.

Anyone reporting speeds over 100 wpm (phone or PC) gets a visit from this guy: I know there are people who type faster than that, but we aren't taking any chances.

I'd like to know this too, since, in theory, the Pocophone version could do better with focusing, due to the possibility it is using the depth sensor.

Yeah, Google, in their infinite wisdom, removed the ability to clear caches across all apps. So when you have a bug that requires clearing multiple app caches and you aren't sure which one to clear, you can no longer use that method to solve the issue (or to regain space). I believe on one of the newer android phones in my house, I did find such an app once that would clear all the individual app caches. I don't know which app that was, but I will look on the app store and see if any jump out at me. Well, I looked and found that I used SD Maid - System Cleaning Tool (https://play.g

I'll try to cut back. :-)

I believe @EskeRahn means that if you got a second one and put it on the bottom, then they might bump into each other and not allow the phone to close all the way. I only have 1, so I can't test that. It certainly does protect the screen, but at the cost of clarity and the front facing camera would be affected too, but holes could be cut for that. Congrats on the most bullet proof screen protector known to the Pro1 world at this time. 😉

One idea is for people to install an app like Wifi Analyzer (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&hl=en_US) and report what it shows for the Pro1 vs other phones, at the same distance from the wireless access point. This is a screenshot from the Play Store, not from my Pro1, but it shows how the app shows the signal strength in dBm. The values will always be negative values. Values closer to 0 (zero) are stronger than values further away from 0. dBm values are logarithmic scale. Every 10 dBm lower in value (closer to zero) represents TEN TIMES th

Yes, I would say there are two issues. I still get the 20+ms pings directly by the router, with full wifi signal. I have noticed, and other people have mentioned, that the Pro1's wifi range isn't as great as other phones or devices. It seems like that is a separate issue. It is normal to get higher pings and lower data transfer rates when a wifi connection is weak. I think it would be good to use a separate topic for the Wifi signal strength issue, where people can report their testing and results. I've created one here: If you could report your testing and results in that topi