Will Android 11, 10 be supported?

[lzb 38]

I am curious if anyone knows the status of Android 10. We're now officially two versions behind. I realize Android 11 probably won't happen any time soon, but does anyone have insight on the progress of Android 10?

[tdm 2,249]

I really wish FxTec was more communicative.  It's super sad to see all the reading between the lines, guessing, and tossing information together because nobody is told what is actually happening or not.

 

I'm not officially authorized to say anything about OTAs, but I will just say don't hold your breath for stock Q or R.  But of course Lineage should have Q in probably a couple weeks and then R pretty much as soon as all the other devices.

 

[EskeRahn 3,602]

9 hours ago, tdm said:

I really wish FxTec was more communicative.  It's super sad to see all the reading between the lines, guessing, and tossing information together because nobody is told what is actually happening or not.

 

I'm not officially authorized to say anything about OTAs, but I will just say don't hold your breath for stock Q or R.  But of course Lineage should have Q in probably a couple weeks and then R pretty much as soon as all the other devices.

 

I much hope they will skip Q and jump to R as security updates on R goes through the Android Market. This way FxTec could completely avoid Google's certification-mess for security updates through standard OTA updates. So they should only handle changes/fixes to their own drivers/software. EDIT, see below...

[eldarion 16]

8 hours ago, tdm said:

I really wish FxTec was more communicative.  It's super sad to see all the reading between the lines, guessing, and tossing information together because nobody is told what is actually happening or not.

 

I'm not officially authorized to say anything about OTAs, but I will just say don't hold your breath for stock Q or R.  But of course Lineage should have Q in probably a couple weeks and then R pretty much as soon as all the other devices.

 

This is fantastic, is it possible to donate to the lineageOS Project for the pro1 support specifically?

[tdm 2,249]

3 minutes ago, eldarion said:

This is fantastic, is it possible to donate to the lineageOS Project for the pro1 support specifically?

Thanks for the thought. It's mostly just me and @npjohnson
but I'm not sure about his feelings on donations. We have both received devices for development, which I personally consider due reward in itself.

[FlyingAntero 630]

1 hour ago, EskeRahn said:

I much hope they will skip Q and jump to R as security updates on R goes through the Android Market. This way FxTec could completely avoid Google's certification-mess for security updates through standard OTA updates. So they should only handle changes/fixes to their own drivers/software.

Actually, security updates are not distributed via Play Store in Android 11 but some security holes can be fixed since system modifications are allowed via Play Store.

• The best Android 11 features you need to know

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To counteract this, Android 11 gives more power related to updates over to the Google Play Store. This allows Google to bypass carriers and OEMs entirely and push out updates to everyone. Of course, it still can’t issue the latest version of Android in this fashion or even the latest security patches. However, it can fix some security holes with this method and even update specific aspects of the Android system, too.

This is universally a good thing as it will keep Android phones safer and more up-to-date, even if the OEM has abandoned the phone. Obviously, it would be much better if that didn’t happen, but at least Google is doing what it can to address this issue.

Previously F(x)tec said that Android 10 update is already in the works. If that is true then I would take it. Otherwise it is better to start working with Android 11 update.

[EskeRahn 3,602]

54 minutes ago, tdm said:

Thanks for the thought. It's mostly just me and @npjohnson
but I'm not sure about his feelings on donations. We have both received devices for development, which I personally consider due reward in itself.

I can not thank you guys enough for the work done. But the number of hours i bet you guys have used on this versus the price of the two devices would still leave room for quite some donations without anyone could reasonably consider you greedy...

[EskeRahn 3,602]

7 minutes ago, FlyingAntero said:

Actually, security updates are not distributed via Play Store in Android 11 but some security holes can be fixed since system modifications are allowed via Play Store.

You are right, I over-interpreted from what I read elsewhere.
They only claim this:

• Google Play System Updates, launched last year, lets us expedite updates of core OS components to devices in the Android ecosystem. In Android 11, we more than doubled the number of updatable modules, and those 12 new modules will help improve privacy, security, and consistency for users and developers.

And though that obviously is an improvement it is not including everything. 😥

[eldarion 16]

3 hours ago, tdm said:

Thanks for the thought. It's mostly just me and @npjohnson
but I'm not sure about his feelings on donations. We have both received devices for development, which I personally consider due reward in itself.

To second @EskeRahn , I literally wouldn't be able to use the pro1 without the LOS fixes. And getting Q and R? For me it wouldn't be about "due reward", you guys deserve a goddamn altar 😉 and I would definitely like to be able to show my appreciation.

[EskeRahn 3,602]

1 hour ago, eldarion said:

To second @EskeRahn , I literally wouldn't be able to use the pro1 without the LOS fixes. And getting Q and R? For me it wouldn't be about "due reward", you guys deserve a goddamn altar 😉 and I would definitely like to be able to show my appreciation.

 

[Doktor Oswaldo 641]

On 9/15/2020 at 8:12 AM, tdm said:

Thanks for the thought. It's mostly just me and @npjohnson
but I'm not sure about his feelings on donations. We have both received devices for development, which I personally consider due reward in itself.

Well I am still not on LOS (I am planning to move in a month, when I have a vacation). But I will share my opinion anyway:
First of all, thank you for your great work, I am not using it now, but I do appreciate it!
The free device is a reward yes. But it is a really shitty pay compared to the hours you guys put in. So it would be totally okay to take donations*.

So if your only doubt with taking donations is the fact that you received a free phone, forget it and take donations.
But if you just have phone developing and don't need to money... well there is a downside to donations. Donations always means some form of pressure.
Someone opening an Issue and donating a lot of money, will always give you the feeling that you need to fix this instantly (even though it is seldom meant this way)

*If you think that you don't need the money, you could also point people to donate to some charity (or other FOSS project) in your name.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Doktor Oswaldo

[FlyingAntero 630]

Android 11 is already available as an unofficial Lineage OS build.

• F(x)tec Pro1 gets unofficial LineageOS 18.0 based on Android 11
• [ROM][UNOFFICIAL] LineageOS 18.0 for F(x)tec Pro1

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Working:
Camera (and flashlight)
WiFi
NFC
Bluetooth
Telephony (Calls and Data)
Audio (Record and Playback)
Video Playback
Sensors
GPS
HW crypto (FBE)
Built-in keyboard

Broken:
Nothing (?)
 

 

[_DW_ 524]

2 hours ago, FlyingAntero said:

Android 11 is already available as an unofficial Lineage OS build.

• F(x)tec Pro1 gets unofficial LineageOS 18.0 based on Android 11
• [ROM][UNOFFICIAL] LineageOS 18.0 for F(x)tec Pro1

 

Nice may actually give that a try before 17