EskeRahn
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...we’re importing the Pro1 to the US and later shipping it to you from a US fulfilment centre. We don’t ship from a different country, so there will be no additional import fees on your side. The price that is listed on your order is the final price including shipping and the state tax for goods sold.
Thanks for this clarification :)
Maybe something like that would be beneficial as some 'fine prints' on all orders to the US. (And similar to any other country where you will have a national "fulfilment centre")
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For me it’s not only writing texts and mails but also being able to command a phone with buttons again. I see that system integration with the phone is very solid and gives a room for using keyboard for things like unlocking stuff, opening apps etc. It’s not really a big deal now like it was in times on WM6 because android is made for touchscreen-only but still a nice thing to have. Also, I’m sure I will install PSX and GBA emulators on Pro1 again.
Oh sure it is wonderful to be able to have the keys in many ways!
BUT we should be honest and accept that the majority of apps out there are only optimised for touch, And for many the only keyboard 'support' there is, is what Android provides, allowing us to navigate and select with the keys.
Even a build in app like Settings, well it technically DO work with keys, but it is way easier to do almost all in it by touch, e.g. changing "Display [item] Size" under Display, I would first need to select the right part with Shift+Tab, then the slider by Up-Arrow, and finally move the slider with the lef/right arrows. It is SO much easier to just pull the slider... HAD it been optimized, the focus on entry would be the slider, so I could use the arrows immediately...
BUT you can have apps that does not work properly with touch were you actually NEED the keyboard. GSMArena has an app that (at the least in the beta I tried), when you set min=max on a search slider, and have them to the left, you can only undo that with a physical keyboard, as you can not select the min slider by touch, as it is 'behind' the max, and as you can not move the max, you are locked... *LOL*
I tried to make a thread here with apps optimised for keyboard usage. And I hope to see a lot of suggestions there, once the PRO1 hits the streets. :D
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Little did he know that there *was* an S4 with a physical keyboard at the time he wrote that article. It was called the Galaxy S Relay 4G. I just did a brain transfer from the one I was using for the past couple years to my last backup, identical phone. I’ve gone through about 5 or 6 since 2012, with one being dead on arrival (keyboard to screen ribbon cable only worked for a day and that is what has failed on just about all of these, with the exception of one being a broken screen). I sure hope the Pro1 comes before this one decides to die too! :-)
He he. Strictly the "Relay" was way closer to an "S3 mini".
See e.g. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=5125&idPhone3=5033
I think his point was exactly that there were no keyboard phones with 'flagship' specs, And by "S4" was referring to the "Galaxy S4" not the "Snapdragon S4" chipset.
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Yeah, it was mainly written in response to the less than expected sales of Photon Q, the last landscape slider. So before Priv – you’ll note galaxy s4 and iphone 5 are new models when that was written. I think the verge brought it back to the front in 2016 cuz of blackberry release tho.
Yup. And that one not really globally available. I think the last attempt was the SonyEricsson (Neo) Pro the year before.
Actually SE had a really interesting idea there in 2011. They released four spec-wise identical devices, including all with 854x480, that (almost) only differed in scale of display and device.
The compact Ray, the normal Neo, The keyboard variant of the Neo called Pro and finally the then ridiculously humongous Arc (I remember people laughing when someone used that huge plate for calls - today the 63mm would rank it a super compact...)
The Ray was really elegant, I used the Pro for years, and until a few months ago carried it around as a spare phone in my bag.
Ray vs Pro vs Neo: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3972&idPhone2=3779&idPhone3=3734
Ray vs Pro vs Arc: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3972&idPhone2=3779&idPhone3=3619
(Note that most sites incorrectly claims the Pro as 13.5mm, that is a typo, GSMArena has recently corrected their base to the actual 15.3mm)
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… So, my post didn’t get through the moderator queue or something? Something something Paypal’s gone something something…
....See other thread, I wish we had a queue.... we currently need to look at all threads one by one to see if anything is pending, so only the newer threads get somewhat frequent checks...But the comment in question was approved about two hours ago....
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Hmmm… The Paypal option was there this morning, but now that I’m ready to pay it’s gone :-(
Are you sure? I'm quite sure it was not there Thursday morning (CEST), I looked for it, and found only direct credit card payments.
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The big question if it will be manage to catch others that use their device a lot for entering text.
I think the timing for that right now is excellent. As said in that interview people wanted iphones and galaxy phones back then, but now those are boring and everyone has one.
Yes the folding sure could open peoples minds to what a phone is again.
The article is really old (2013, though revived in 2016), so old that they it neither include BB Priv, nor BB Key½.
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Though I hope it will, I really really doubt it will be a smashing success selling millions.
But I definitely think there is a niche for it also in 2019.
On one side old dinosaurs like myself, that texts/mails a lot will welcome it as a long awaited return..
The big question if it will be manage to catch others that use their device a lot for entering text.
Apart from the obvious benefit of typing text and mails, I also see the Pro1 competing with tablets with keyboards and ultraportables, for those that enters a lot of text info, but do not need to also use it for e.g. sales presentations. I imagine doctors, and sales representatives visiting existing customers registering renewed orders and stuff like that. Or people inspecting various stuff, where they rarely do drawings but register text wise. Think e.g. health inspectors.
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Hmm. Maybe you could get them to give you a list of ALL the fields they expect, then FxTec could see which one(s) they do not currently provide?
as I said, they wouldn’t tell me.
I assumed they would have some public available guidelines of what fields of info they expect.
As others can pay they must require something that is not usually required from banks in general.
Buying online, some US sites REQUIRE fields like "county" and/or "State" to be filled in, despite tiny Denmark does not have a similar administrative division - so I have to invent something to fill in.... Could be something similar.
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Maybe someone from fxtec reads this: I got through to my bank, they removed the lock and told me the issue is that FXTec have not submitted/provided all neccessary information for credit card payments. They wouldn’t tell me what was missing either.
Hmm. Maybe you could get them to give you a list of ALL the fields they expect, then FxTec could see which one(s) they do not currently provide? (I know nothing on how card payment requests actually works - I have only used cards to pay)
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The same for me, also QWERTZ and Coupon calculations were right.
Well with a coupon you should be safe to be in the first badge I guess :)
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Had no problem paying, but recieved my mail 30 minutes ago. It seems like you were waaay ahead of me.
To be honest this pisses my off a little bit. When the criteria is speed of paying, everybody should get their mails at least at the same day.
This is no problem at all, when I am still in the first batch, but who knows…
I do not know when precisely they make the cut, but guess sometimes tonight or during the weekend. They promised to take the paid of the (few) indiegogo-coupon orders first, and I believe they said they will process the paid orders as they were paid. And to me it sounds quite fair that the early pre-orders thus get a better chance of being among the first, since getting the mail first.
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Everyone can use QWERTY too
Sure, but the shift of the QWERTY would mean you would have the national letters (in our case ÅÄÖ resp. ÆØÅ) in unconventional positions. And (for me at the least) that inhibit typing quite a bit.
IF they had also had an international (non shifted) QWERTY, I would have gone for that over the qwertZ.
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BTW here is my receipt from yesterday (anonymised)
Note that it has correctly registered the qwertZ request as well as a indiegogo coupon substraction. :-D
[attachment file=27919]
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Hope so, if the battery is easy to change, perhaps the keyboard layout is as well? Would switch to scandinavian layout from qwertz if that option would become available at a later date.
Me too... :)
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The more things become known the better this phone looks! :)
Feel the same way :)
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Hello everyone! I scaned this thread and the same with poll but didnt find any plans(only this https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/alternative-layouts/page/5/#post-6831, it was 5 months ago, smth may have changed) about russian layout(йцукен). Do u have it? I understand fxtec’s more popular in eu&us than in ru but there are 13% in the poll. Thanx
I think they are so super busy with getting the first waves out in QWERTZ and shifted QWERTY that alternative print layouts won't even be considered before the first wave is rolling out. But I have no idea what prints will come later.
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Dont wana bother Fx team guys since I guess they are superbusy these days.
When you receive the payment link, worst case should be that the link gives you a red message like this:
This order cannot be paid for. Please contact us if you need assistance.
And if so you will need to 'bother' them. ;)
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Re-subscribing doesn’t work because it still sees your e-mail address on file. Unless you were to use a different address I suppose but I’m not. Hopefully, my invite to pay for pre-order doesn’t get lost in the system….
Depending on mail servers it MIGHT work with adding a suffix.
Say you got [email protected], then it MIGHT work entering [email protected], as these will go to the same gmail. And with a little luck, the subscriber software see them as different
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I think some of the text left unchanged since pre-order page.
I mean, for example, the mentioned ‘future date’ is this one. :-)
Could be, OR the amount is locked on our accounts, but not actually redrawn (yet). I do not know. I will excalate the question. :)
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According to official specs, Pro 1 will have Sony camera sensor. Sony mobiles are known for not having RAW image support perhaps to not to cannibalize Sony’s own point’n’shoot camera market segment.
So I wonder if Pro1 will have camera2 API to support apps which can handle RAW imaging?
Or is it a hardware limitation of Sony mobile camera sensors and there won’t be RAW possible at all?
Thanks for any insights.
It will support camera2 API, including RAW. (Tested with Open Camera)
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That was my hope too. But I guess there are too many money in planned obsolescence to allow for a user and environmental friendly idea like Ara to fly... ;(
One principal 'design flaw' with the Ara was that there were no modules that went all the way through the frame (or attached to the top). That would have allowed for better cameras, without them giving the device a huge bump.