EskeRahn
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It would be great, but on the second thought, why would Fxtec Team organize beta test if they would be shipping devices anyway?
Just a guess. If they feel quite certain that the hardware is finished, and it is just a matter of the firmware/software. They just might start the production of the units with software with known bugs, that gets fixed by OTA update on install. This could speed up things compared to awaiting the full beta process, and the correction of found errors, before production start. But as I said, just guessing.
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How many beta testers will be there?
Let’s post here, if anyone of us got selected.
I do not know how the beta test is going to work, but I hope they find an open way of reporting so people do not waste time on describing and reporting bugs other have already sent in.
I don't see much point in doing it in this completely open forum though. I mean not much point in discussing bugs found as long as they are corrected before (or shortly after) release.
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Yes, I got that after I posted. Sounds like quite a few people interested. The time it shows is not the time I actually posted, probably due to the moderation delay.
Yup, an odd bug, and even if approved they does not appear at the front as activity in the thread until a moderator make a comment in the thread too.... So I have made a habit of after approve to make a dummy comment and delete it.... Making it even more tedious.... I sure hope they find a smarter solution soon.
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Well yes, we just got it in a newsletter:
Beta TestingWe’ve been going through the hundreds (and hundreds) of completed beta testing forms. Thank you to everyone who has offered to help us out as we have been overwhelmed and delighted with your support. We will be getting in touch with the lucky few this coming week, so keep an eye on your inboxes. -
After seeing from the posts above that the screen is actually the same used in Elephone U Pro I would like someone to clarify on the glass of the screen itself. It is said that Elephone U Pro uses Gorilla Glass 5 but on the Fxtec website it is said that the Pro1 uses Gorilla Glass 3. Does the Pro1 uses Gorilla Glass 3 or 5? Looking at the fact that the protective foil is the only way of having any screen protection because of curves I think that clarification is pretty important. Flat screen is simpler and easier to protect and I’m afraid of the durability of that curved screen especially because the phone will be probably heavier than average so any impact will be more powerful for the glass.
Anyway, I wonder if that upcoming protective case will also protect the screen.
That puzzled me too. but asked, Boe (the manufacturer) says it is Gorilla Glass 3, So why Elephone write 5, I do not know.
A little more on the different version can be found here, and many others clearly stick to 3.
As I understand it GC4,5 and 6 are more impact resistant, and thus more scratch prone. (for physical reasons the harder, the more brittle)
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No, I’m not reading anymore due to this random delay. But I like you Eske. You answer always fast. Keep it up.
Well I have been away for a fortnight on holiday, only checking sporadically, so the staff had to handle the forum too on top of all their other chores.
The massive spam-attack required immediate action, and unfortunately the current strict system has the negative side effect of being dependent of manual approvals, and not the least of someone realising that there are comments awaiting approval...
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The haven’t posted my latast post for a long time now. Is this how Pro1 team will work going forward. Sad to see.
Did you bother to READ the thread you are posting in?
But until now it has even been hard to find what threads got comments awaiting approval. I had to browse through all seven pages with over a 100 threads, to see if each thread had one waiting…. So I have checked less frequent than with a simple F5 and threads at the top of the list....but I can not find the comment you are referring to. I see no comments from you awaiting moderation. What thread have you commented in?.
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Waxberry, the main guy from fxtec, posts and replies periodically.
Yup.
As far as I know any user in here marked as "Keymaster" below the user name is a member of the staff (except me as just a moderator)
...But would be nice if it was more obvious.
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never even noticed the spam posts this was meant to stop, it never bothered me.
Well we had over 500 spam threads making the overview close to useless, but luckily it was handled quickly by the team, so glad to hear that you were not affected by it.
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I don’t think something based on thanks would work too well, cuz wouldn’t scammers just make multiple accounts and thank themselves or something.
Well at the least that could be handled by only counting thanks from previously white-listed accounts. :)
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(See this newer thread)
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Well hey that’s pretty good, better than all my phones before :).
I tried my Samsung S8- and it goes down a bit further (something like 8x6).
BUT the limitation is NOT the optics! Trying a lot of times with a high contrast image, It can get sharp MUCH closer than the above. Something like 6.4x4.8 I guess.
It is clear on the display when the autofocus is hunting, that the optical focus limit is way lower than the 10cm the OpenCamera displays as the lowest limit for manual focus!! So it might be simply a matter of reporting a lower limit to the API - or could be a bug in OpenCamera???
With Snapdragon Camera app I can get about 8x6 images - just like the S8- can (Autofocous in Flower mode I do not think the app offers manual focus - did not find it)
Attached a reduced image with the centre from the original copied in
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Did the photo quality and macro capabilities change for you in Open Camera from one version of the firmware to the next?
Oh indeed, the first firmware I had was very early. I did not even attempt to do macro on that...
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I doubt those cases would happen a lot, there will always be a need for manual moderation unless the system is overly restrictive. Automatic whitelisting would be nice for sure though.
....currently I would be glad to just have manual white-listing.... But sure automatic would be preferable.
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Those are some great photos :). What I’d really like to know though is how close can the camera focus for macro(-ish) shots.
Flashed with the newest firmware, the pre-production unit (might be different from the real stuff), can do macros in Open Camera down to about 11.2x8.4cm, at about 9cm distance.
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Just a thought, but i think this thread is worth being pinned :).
Good point, done. :)
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I don’t understand the text but there’s nice photos here https://monoworks.co.jp/post/2019-07-11-hands-on-fxtec-pro1-smartphone-tokyo/
Nice pictures. And looks like they also got the packing ready, looking at the first three images. :-)
I'm a little confused on the stand. Is that something in the package? And what is the use of it, compared to just opening the device? Merely a steeper angle than the 25 degrees? Is it a charging stand in portrait?
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Yeah, the spammers are unlikely to leave any sensible messages so it would be quite easy to tell who to whitelist…
Yeah, I would prefer a somewhat automated system, so I would not need to white-list each one-by-one... But indeed on comments from new users it would almost always be posible to tell if the answer make sense in the context. But a clever spammer could misuse if a first comment was enough to get white-listed, by creating a few sensible comments, and then let a bot take over spamming with that account... so it would need to be a bit more clever.
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(I removed a few clutter-comments, that were due to a reading error, and comment on that comment....)
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Well I too think that the current response to the attacks last week is not optimal.
I hope they find out some white-list system, where people with some number of thanks from other white-listed members gets white-listed, as well as people that already left comments in here for say at the least a fortnight ago without the posts getting marked as spam, reported or deleted.
This would give us some mutual white-listing within the community automatically. If this get misused by a group, it could be take down again.
But until now it has even been hard to find what threads got comments awaiting approval. I had to browse through all seven pages with over a 100 threads, to see if each thread had one waiting.... So I have checked less frequent than with a simple F5 and threads at the top of the list.
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With the QWERTZ layout being brought to the German community event; Will we be able to pick the German keyboard layout at the checkout procedure?
Would be nice with an official answer to this...
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..keep going, 37 flooded pages…
i really hope they can delete based on user / pattern xD… nice job clicking all the way to here
I hope so too, raised the issue, and hopefully it will be handled quickly.
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P.S. The single-key shortcut to an app is nice but pretty static.
I hope they will allow long press on more than a single key to be associated with an action, say press Alt and then press and hold a key to do something.special. Say Alt+P to call Peter and Alt+Ctrl+P to send Peter an SMS...... Just brainstorming here...
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Please enlighten me if I am wrong here, but I have never heard of bad software screwing up your SIM-cards, so I don’t understand why people are so hesitant to try the BETA-phone as their daily driver. If I get the beta-test, I will absolutely try to use it as my main phone and see where it holds up and where it doesn’t.
Or can bad OS brick SIM-cards?
Well as software still at Beta levels, strange things can happen, however unlikely they may seem...
Calls interrupted, lacking notification on calls/mails/sms/... or the other way round Sound could go off when it is supposed to be silent.
It might seem like a mail or sms is sent though it is not. Files you download or creates, can get lost or tampered... Contacts lost.
An update can mess it up completely until the next update, leaving you with a useless device in the meantime.
...Well only the fantasy set the limits. Not that any of this is very likely, but you should have a back-up device to be sure you can do important stuff when needed.
Small update for those only following the forums.
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Just a simple question, do you know of any devices that weren't buggy on release?
And to the "Pretty stable". Well the MAY software on the preproduction unit I tested qualifies for that.... Never experienced other than minor bugs. Sure there were thing that was not implemented/finished back then as the Camera software. But what was there, certainly qualifies for "Pretty stable"...