EskeRahn
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Well my pre-order number is 8686 so if they went from 1 they are not doing to bad on pre-orders and if the device is solid a lot of them people would back a second device I would expect as well.
Yeah, I too expect to buy at the least one spare.
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This looks like the very best landscape slider keyboard ever made anywhere by anyone. I can hardly wait. :)
I'm definitely with you on that one. :-D
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Oh wash your mouth out with soap for speaking such dirty words! :O
*LOL*, Well even if WE want them to make it there is a risk that they find other endeavours to follow.
But I agree that the name is not optimal. Especially the typography Pro¹ over Pro1 is not Google-friendly. I Hope they will adjust that before release, say lower and enlarge the 1 only have it slightly raised and/or in a different colour, so everyone just types it as "Pro1"
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I think that this company, as a consortium of people who are actively bringing the best of the past into the future, may provide official builds of the OS for a great deal longer than the publicly traded mass market phone makers. These people are making a product because they love it, and it’s the phone they always wished someone would build. I have a feeling that we will be pleasantly surprised on this point. :) I think they will see a long useful life as a badge of honor, and a way to enormously boost their credibility in a market dominated by planned obsolescence, which will in turn boost sales and take market share from the monster phone makers.
An Idea I have wondered over not seen, would be that (any company) close to end of line of updates for a product tried to 'crowd fund' subscription based updates. On a device like this I'm absolutely certain that we are enough keyboard maniacs out there, that if there is no Pro2, 3, ... we would be very interested in paying for the extension of the life of the Pro1.
I for one would not mind after the first two-three years to pay something like £50 a year (or maybe more) to keep it up to date with security patches, and perhaps feature and OS updates, if there were no alternative devices available. And if say just thousand of us feel the same way, it could be really profttable for them, win-win...
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Speaking of typewriters, though, many compact typewriters didn’t have a 1 key; you used a lower case L instead. I don’t remember but I feel like that shifted the number row; I’ll have to look at my portable typewriter and see. I do have one. I even use it sometimes. :)
....But here is another without the zero, but with the one, and the digits shifted the other way(!)
https://5.imimg.com/data5/VM/VO/MY-2105719/hermes-baby-g.jpg
...And here one with neither 1 nor 0 and shift like the Pro1
https://www.bazaraki.com/adv/2356211_vintage-olympia-portable-typewriter/
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Speaking of typewriters, though, many compact typewriters didn’t have a 1 key; you used a lower case L instead. I don’t remember but I feel like that shifted the number row; I’ll have to look at my portable typewriter and see. I do have one. I even use it sometimes. :)
Here is one. No shift, the 2 centred between Q and W. (It was also very common to use the letter o for zero)
https://www.tias.com/stores/clocksgalore/pictures/8139a.jpg
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I think no one has mentioned Samsung Brightside as it looks like it only released on verizon? May have gone by a different name internationally.
Makes sense, I’m not aware of any overseas version of it. Still, while the phone is small, and the screen stays flat when the keyboard is out, it’s a really nice keyboard, it’s basically the only reason I’ve used it for so long.
It seems to be Verizon only. Tried browsing a bit on GSMArena, and the closest international seems to be the slightly newer i827
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4771&idPhone2=4641#diff-
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1. Droid 4. No question the best, and I’m still using it daily and to post this. :) Obviously F(x)tec agrees since they all but copied it for the Pro1.
You really think it is copied? The layout is substantially different, The Droid has 12 keys width in the letter rows, and 10 at the top row..
So in their layout the "1" and "2" is shifted less than one key to the left "3" to "7" roughly at the standard positions, and "8", "9" and "0" shifted more and more to the right, with "0" shifted about 1½ key right from standard.
The Pro1 got 14 equally width columns. On the US layout ALL digits are shifted exactly one key left relative to the letters. (Or more accurately the letters are shifted one key right compared to the digits and other keys)
(The Droid4 even has their letters in a much less than standard staggered arrangement. "ASD.." is only slightly left of "ZXC..". The Pro1 is closer to follow the conventional QWERTY staggering - of course the staggering is just a convention today, though it on classic typewriters were to have the mechanical arms separated)
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Its bit disappointing that now there is no mention of when it will be released.
Now they are still talking about working on hardware and then talking about these future events going on. so to me it looks like this device will not be available at least anytime this year.
Hmm they have changed to "Shipping globally is estimated to be summer 2019" (was "July" earlier) on the pre-order page, so why do you assume it will not be 2019????
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Have you seen some invitation? I am bit afraid to miss the one for Europe, when I did not recognize this Japan one at all! :-(
They got so many pre-orders from Japan that they were sure that 'locals' could easily fill the slots. See tweet:
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I don’t like the power button double press as triple press on my phone calls emergency services! done that way to many times (*^^*)
Just took the chance on the pre-production unit, and neither triple nor other multiple press called anyone.
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I only expect the latest release on any phone and just hope they release the next version other than that it’s not likely as companies only see phones with a 2 year life span.
I feel much the same way. Unless an update severely destroys vital functionality existing on previous (aPple did that a couple of time when I used an Ip6- ), or a promised functionality is not working, I do not expect new updates, but sure am glad if there are updates.
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That’s party true. Also the !@[]{}…
I might go with onSreen devices instead. Qwerty is the only feature of this device so that must be perfect.
Is the print on the keys really that important? To me the important thing is that we can have the functionally layout as we please.
I agree that the shifted US print would make it awkward for any language with additional national letters (Either almost all print wrong, or national letters at odd positions).
Personally I primarily write using English layout on a Danish print keyboard on my PC (and has done so since the eighties), so I'm used to the prints not entirely reflecting the functions.
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Would appreciate any comments regarding Scandinavian QWERTY from FX. Basically a YES/NO would be enough so I can look elsewhere during the summer.
Thank you.
Would be nice to know indeed.
Remember that the print and the functions does not need to be identical, so we can have e.g. Swedish/Danish/Norwegian/... layout, no matter the print.
If a Scandinavian print is NOT going to be available at launch I will go for the German print, as this is really close to the Swedish (primarily print of Y&Z swapped, and Ü printed on the Å). As a Dane I got an extra Æ&Ø print swap, but I can easily live with that too.
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I think a general complaint is the lack of consistency in information from the company.
For instance there has been a long thread about the QWERTZ keyboard here in the forum. Recently the company made a prototype of the QWERTZ keyboard, but they didn’t talk about that in the forum. We were informed about this prototype by a user who found a post on Twitter.
In addition I would say that if EskeRahn was not here, we would almost never get any answers to our questions.
Remember that it is a startup company, not a huge organisation. And yes they do rely on me trying to answer the things we already know, and when something we don't come up, to raise it to their attention.
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Tbh honest if it was Prague and they did it on a Friday I’d go for a long weekend :D
I think it is a very good idea to choose a Friday evening/late afternoon - no matter where in the world it is, as it exactly could entice more people to combine it with a weekend visit. Especially if held in a 'tourist friendly' city/area.
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This wouldn’t be what you want anyway:
This process is called annealing, and it will effectively undo the tempering process, weakening the glass to the point that you can cut it.
The point is that what is SOLD as tempered glass protectors (most often?) really are laminated glass protectors, so it already is simple annealed glass on a sheet of plastic, and hence (at least in theory) simpler to cut, as Netman described above.
BUT maybe one would need to cut at BOTH sides, as it is two sheets of glass with a film in between. But anyway not simple....
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Seems to be a little bit more complex: https://www.wikihow.com/Cut-Tempered-Glass
Wauv, that is complex.... But might not be quite as complex on these very very thin sheets.
And looking here, many screen protectors sold as "tempered glass" protectors really should be called "laminated glass" protectors. (It also have an illustrative video)
As when they break, they do not break quite the same way a say tempered glass door, breaking the whole piece into about equally sized bits. It cracks along a number of lines, looking like a spiders web, but it (usually) stays together. See some examples e.g. here
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The real point however is, that a newsletter is much more work than a twitter account and has less visibility outside of the bubble (people on this forum here).
The low bar request is to have a thread in here duplicating the comments, or at the lowest bar, link to them so we get information on when there is new info on what ever channel they prefer to use to publish stuff to wheel in new customers.
That way we would only have to keep an eye on one thread in here to get any info they publish anywhere.
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That did sound a bit strange, there’s no way you can cut tempered glass. It will shatter (not just break) as soon as you try.
Yeah, that was too optimistic It is not a problem cutting with a diamond, but I could not get it to follow the line breaking at the cut. I guess the film inside is too tough to just tear where I want it to....
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OMG!! Wrong location :-(
Yup, they are aware... Luckily it is not the final version *LOL*
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Isn’t that really the purpose of their twitter button? I don’t have (nor want) a twitter account, but that button at the top of the forum takes me to their twitter posts anyway. ;-)
Well but then people would have to click this to see if there is any news - not exactly optimal....
(And anyway, as any narcissistic media buttons on sites I use, I removed that long ago with the ad-blocker...)
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I would love if everything posted on twitter or elsewhere outside the forum, as a minimum had a thread in here pointing to those.
(But would prefer to have the content here as well)
To me that would be better than a new channel of info
Personally I'm not using the narcissistic media, so only get the info if I stumble upon them, typically because another user posts a link.
as an example the German layout, it was a user that posted the link here...
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On the other hand it would be nice to know whether some manufacturer will produce the screen protector film.
I took the liberty to split this thread, to have the screen protector stuff in the relavant thread here
Pro1 and Sailfish OS
in Pro1 - Thoughts & questions
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Well it is a tiny 22s video just showing something is working, and a text
"Hold my beer #Jolla #SailfishOS @JollaHQ @thefxtec"