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....You got psychic powers? They just sent out an e-mail... *LOL* Among other things it says We anticipate that payment will be requested at the end of July, ahead of an expected shipment date in early September. But also requests for beta-testers, so if you are as impatient as me that might be an option to become one of the lucky ones.... ADD: @netman, you are fast :)

If you can do a competitor you can sell at that price, then please do... I would love a slightly more compact device, And some have asked for a non-curved display.... But to get realistic, you forget one VERY important aspect in your R&D calculus: VOLUME! What you are looking at is the marginal cost between number say 100000 and 100001, and sure that could be like the numbers you suggests. If you have an expected sell of a million devices or more, every 5 million spent in R&D, marketing etc is just £5 per device. But I think they will be over-joyed if they sell even 100000! A

See e.g TrustedReview on the Elephone U Pro with the same Boe display https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/elephone-u-pro ADD Just browsed through a number of reviews https://www.google.com/search?q=elephone+u+pro+review+display And the one thing they all seem to agree on is that the display is really good... :)

You did not miss it, we are all impatiently waiting for official info. What we know is that they changed "July 2019" to "Summer 2019" in the pre-order page text.

Nope, never used it.

You are a bit early on the 4th of July greetings... ;-)

I agree on that. Hopefully Fxtec will help these ROM-makers all they need. But due to the relatively low volume, I do not see it realistic to sell it in multiple software versions. But they could make it as easy as possible for people to swap. Those that do NOT want Android Market and all the other Gapps installed, but merely the bare Android, must be technically knowledgeable enough to get and sideloade the Apps they need, so it is a fair assumption that rooting and flashing is not scaring concepts for them either. Sure if this gets a huge success and they can sell 100000 devices with

Well I hope it will be there as an OPTION, as it can help both getting spelling right and, for long words, often the right word is suggested after typing the first few letters, and this can speed up things.

Exactly and hence using Pro¹ is a bad idea, as it is not found when anyone searches for Pro1 - that was the whole point.

Unfortunately not, At the current state of this early unit not all antennas are in place, and can not connect to the world except through WiFi. So more a teaser than a daily driver.

Yup, I forgot that in my preview initially, so Googling Pro1 does not find it, though Pro¹ do... *LOL*

Well there is, Superscript numbers are characters you can find in e.g Windows Character map: Pro¹ . Actually just checked again, and it (now) is supported by Google https://www.google.com/search?q=Pro¹ but it does not match Pro1 or vice versa. So you need to remember both in your text if you want to make sure a Google search finds it...

Well it is a tiny 22s video just showing something is working, and a text "Hold my beer #Jolla #SailfishOS @JollaHQ @thefxtec"

Yeah, I too expect to buy at the least one spare.

I'm definitely with you on that one. :-D

*LOL*, Well even if WE want them to make it there is a risk that they find other endeavours to follow. But I agree that the name is not optimal. Especially the typography Pro¹ over Pro1 is not Google-friendly. I Hope they will adjust that before release, say lower and enlarge the 1 only have it slightly raised and/or in a different colour, so everyone just types it as "Pro1"

An Idea I have wondered over not seen, would be that (any company) close to end of line of updates for a product tried to 'crowd fund' subscription based updates. On a device like this I'm absolutely certain that we are enough keyboard maniacs out there, that if there is no Pro2, 3, ... we would be very interested in paying for the extension of the life of the Pro1. I for one would not mind after the first two-three years to pay something like £50 a year (or maybe more) to keep it up to date with security patches, and perhaps feature and OS updates, if there were no alternative devices ava

....But here is another without the zero, but with the one, and the digits shifted the other way(!) https://5.imimg.com/data5/VM/VO/MY-2105719/hermes-baby-g.jpg ...And here one with neither 1 nor 0 and shift like the Pro1 https://www.bazaraki.com/adv/2356211_vintage-olympia-portable-typewriter/

Here is one. No shift, the 2 centred between Q and W. (It was also very common to use the letter o for zero) https://www.tias.com/stores/clocksgalore/pictures/8139a.jpg

It seems to be Verizon only. Tried browsing a bit on GSMArena, and the closest international seems to be the slightly newer i827 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4771&idPhone2=4641#diff- https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2010&nYearMax=2012&fDisplayInchesMin=3.1&fDisplayInchesMax=3.2&sMakers=9&idQwerty=1

You really think it is copied? The layout is substantially different, The Droid has 12 keys width in the letter rows, and 10 at the top row.. So in their layout the "1" and "2" is shifted less than one key to the left "3" to "7" roughly at the standard positions, and "8", "9" and "0" shifted more and more to the right, with "0" shifted about 1½ key right from standard. The Pro1 got 14 equally width columns. On the US layout ALL digits are shifted exactly one key left relative to the letters. (Or more accurately the letters are shifted one key right compared to the digits and other keys)

Hmm they have changed to "Shipping globally is estimated to be summer 2019" (was "July" earlier) on the pre-order page, so why do you assume it will not be 2019????

They got so many pre-orders from Japan that they were sure that 'locals' could easily fill the slots. See tweet:

Just took the chance on the pre-production unit, and neither triple nor other multiple press called anyone.

I feel much the same way. Unless an update severely destroys vital functionality existing on previous (aPple did that a couple of time when I used an Ip6- ), or a promised functionality is not working, I do not expect new updates, but sure am glad if there are updates.