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You are a bit early on the 4th of July greetings... ;-)

I agree on that. Hopefully Fxtec will help these ROM-makers all they need. But due to the relatively low volume, I do not see it realistic to sell it in multiple software versions. But they could make it as easy as possible for people to swap. Those that do NOT want Android Market and all the other Gapps installed, but merely the bare Android, must be technically knowledgeable enough to get and sideloade the Apps they need, so it is a fair assumption that rooting and flashing is not scaring concepts for them either. Sure if this gets a huge success and they can sell 100000 devices with

Well I hope it will be there as an OPTION, as it can help both getting spelling right and, for long words, often the right word is suggested after typing the first few letters, and this can speed up things.

Exactly and hence using Pro¹ is a bad idea, as it is not found when anyone searches for Pro1 - that was the whole point.

Unfortunately not, At the current state of this early unit not all antennas are in place, and can not connect to the world except through WiFi. So more a teaser than a daily driver.

Yup, I forgot that in my preview initially, so Googling Pro1 does not find it, though Pro¹ do... *LOL*

Well there is, Superscript numbers are characters you can find in e.g Windows Character map: Pro¹ . Actually just checked again, and it (now) is supported by Google https://www.google.com/search?q=Pro¹ but it does not match Pro1 or vice versa. So you need to remember both in your text if you want to make sure a Google search finds it...

Well it is a tiny 22s video just showing something is working, and a text "Hold my beer #Jolla #SailfishOS @JollaHQ @thefxtec"

Yeah, I too expect to buy at the least one spare.

I'm definitely with you on that one. :-D

*LOL*, Well even if WE want them to make it there is a risk that they find other endeavours to follow. But I agree that the name is not optimal. Especially the typography Pro¹ over Pro1 is not Google-friendly. I Hope they will adjust that before release, say lower and enlarge the 1 only have it slightly raised and/or in a different colour, so everyone just types it as "Pro1"

An Idea I have wondered over not seen, would be that (any company) close to end of line of updates for a product tried to 'crowd fund' subscription based updates. On a device like this I'm absolutely certain that we are enough keyboard maniacs out there, that if there is no Pro2, 3, ... we would be very interested in paying for the extension of the life of the Pro1. I for one would not mind after the first two-three years to pay something like £50 a year (or maybe more) to keep it up to date with security patches, and perhaps feature and OS updates, if there were no alternative devices ava

....But here is another without the zero, but with the one, and the digits shifted the other way(!) https://5.imimg.com/data5/VM/VO/MY-2105719/hermes-baby-g.jpg ...And here one with neither 1 nor 0 and shift like the Pro1 https://www.bazaraki.com/adv/2356211_vintage-olympia-portable-typewriter/

Here is one. No shift, the 2 centred between Q and W. (It was also very common to use the letter o for zero) https://www.tias.com/stores/clocksgalore/pictures/8139a.jpg

It seems to be Verizon only. Tried browsing a bit on GSMArena, and the closest international seems to be the slightly newer i827 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4771&idPhone2=4641#diff- https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2010&nYearMax=2012&fDisplayInchesMin=3.1&fDisplayInchesMax=3.2&sMakers=9&idQwerty=1

You really think it is copied? The layout is substantially different, The Droid has 12 keys width in the letter rows, and 10 at the top row.. So in their layout the "1" and "2" is shifted less than one key to the left "3" to "7" roughly at the standard positions, and "8", "9" and "0" shifted more and more to the right, with "0" shifted about 1½ key right from standard. The Pro1 got 14 equally width columns. On the US layout ALL digits are shifted exactly one key left relative to the letters. (Or more accurately the letters are shifted one key right compared to the digits and other keys)

Hmm they have changed to "Shipping globally is estimated to be summer 2019" (was "July" earlier) on the pre-order page, so why do you assume it will not be 2019????

They got so many pre-orders from Japan that they were sure that 'locals' could easily fill the slots. See tweet:

Just took the chance on the pre-production unit, and neither triple nor other multiple press called anyone.

I feel much the same way. Unless an update severely destroys vital functionality existing on previous (aPple did that a couple of time when I used an Ip6- ), or a promised functionality is not working, I do not expect new updates, but sure am glad if there are updates.

Is the print on the keys really that important? To me the important thing is that we can have the functionally layout as we please. I agree that the shifted US print would make it awkward for any language with additional national letters (Either almost all print wrong, or national letters at odd positions). Personally I primarily write using English layout on a Danish print keyboard on my PC (and has done so since the eighties), so I'm used to the prints not entirely reflecting the functions.

Would be nice to know indeed. Remember that the print and the functions does not need to be identical, so we can have e.g. Swedish/Danish/Norwegian/... layout, no matter the print. If a Scandinavian print is NOT going to be available at launch I will go for the German print, as this is really close to the Swedish (primarily print of Y&Z swapped, and Ü printed on the Å). As a Dane I got an extra Æ&Ø print swap, but I can easily live with that too.

Remember that it is a startup company, not a huge organisation. And yes they do rely on me trying to answer the things we already know, and when something we don't come up, to raise it to their attention.

I think it is a very good idea to choose a Friday evening/late afternoon - no matter where in the world it is, as it exactly could entice more people to combine it with a weekend visit. Especially if held in a 'tourist friendly' city/area.

The point is that what is SOLD as tempered glass protectors (most often?) really are laminated glass protectors, so it already is simple annealed glass on a sheet of plastic, and hence (at least in theory) simpler to cut, as Netman described above. BUT maybe one would need to cut at BOTH sides, as it is two sheets of glass with a film in between. But anyway not simple....