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It seems to be Verizon only. Tried browsing a bit on GSMArena, and the closest international seems to be the slightly newer i827 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4771&idPhone2=4641#diff- https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2010&nYearMax=2012&fDisplayInchesMin=3.1&fDisplayInchesMax=3.2&sMakers=9&idQwerty=1

You really think it is copied? The layout is substantially different, The Droid has 12 keys width in the letter rows, and 10 at the top row.. So in their layout the "1" and "2" is shifted less than one key to the left "3" to "7" roughly at the standard positions, and "8", "9" and "0" shifted more and more to the right, with "0" shifted about 1½ key right from standard. The Pro1 got 14 equally width columns. On the US layout ALL digits are shifted exactly one key left relative to the letters. (Or more accurately the letters are shifted one key right compared to the digits and other keys)

Hmm they have changed to "Shipping globally is estimated to be summer 2019" (was "July" earlier) on the pre-order page, so why do you assume it will not be 2019????

They got so many pre-orders from Japan that they were sure that 'locals' could easily fill the slots. See tweet:

Just took the chance on the pre-production unit, and neither triple nor other multiple press called anyone.

I feel much the same way. Unless an update severely destroys vital functionality existing on previous (aPple did that a couple of time when I used an Ip6- ), or a promised functionality is not working, I do not expect new updates, but sure am glad if there are updates.

Is the print on the keys really that important? To me the important thing is that we can have the functionally layout as we please. I agree that the shifted US print would make it awkward for any language with additional national letters (Either almost all print wrong, or national letters at odd positions). Personally I primarily write using English layout on a Danish print keyboard on my PC (and has done so since the eighties), so I'm used to the prints not entirely reflecting the functions.

Would be nice to know indeed. Remember that the print and the functions does not need to be identical, so we can have e.g. Swedish/Danish/Norwegian/... layout, no matter the print. If a Scandinavian print is NOT going to be available at launch I will go for the German print, as this is really close to the Swedish (primarily print of Y&Z swapped, and Ü printed on the Å). As a Dane I got an extra Æ&Ø print swap, but I can easily live with that too.

Remember that it is a startup company, not a huge organisation. And yes they do rely on me trying to answer the things we already know, and when something we don't come up, to raise it to their attention.

I think it is a very good idea to choose a Friday evening/late afternoon - no matter where in the world it is, as it exactly could entice more people to combine it with a weekend visit. Especially if held in a 'tourist friendly' city/area.

The point is that what is SOLD as tempered glass protectors (most often?) really are laminated glass protectors, so it already is simple annealed glass on a sheet of plastic, and hence (at least in theory) simpler to cut, as Netman described above. BUT maybe one would need to cut at BOTH sides, as it is two sheets of glass with a film in between. But anyway not simple....

Wauv, that is complex.... But might not be quite as complex on these very very thin sheets. And looking here, many screen protectors sold as "tempered glass" protectors really should be called "laminated glass" protectors. (It also have an illustrative video) As when they break, they do not break quite the same way a say tempered glass door, breaking the whole piece into about equally sized bits. It cracks along a number of lines, looking like a spiders web, but it (usually) stays together. See some examples e.g. here

The low bar request is to have a thread in here duplicating the comments, or at the lowest bar, link to them so we get information on when there is new info on what ever channel they prefer to use to publish stuff to wheel in new customers. That way we would only have to keep an eye on one thread in here to get any info they publish anywhere.

Yeah, that was too optimistic It is not a problem cutting with a diamond, but I could not get it to follow the line breaking at the cut. I guess the film inside is too tough to just tear where I want it to....

Yup, they are aware... Luckily it is not the final version *LOL*

Well but then people would have to click this to see if there is any news - not exactly optimal.... (And anyway, as any narcissistic media buttons on sites I use, I removed that long ago with the ad-blocker...)

I would love if everything posted on twitter or elsewhere outside the forum, as a minimum had a thread in here pointing to those. (But would prefer to have the content here as well) To me that would be better than a new channel of info Personally I'm not using the narcissistic media, so only get the info if I stumble upon them, typically because another user posts a link. as an example the German layout, it was a user that posted the link here...

I took the liberty to split this thread, to have the screen protector stuff in the relavant thread here

(Actually you might still be able to cancel the order at the order list if you are stingy enough to bother *LOL* )

(I experienced the same inconsistent behaviour - I'm new to aliexpress)

Interesting, and definitely not expensive. I would have preferred tempered glass though. Just ordered 5, and hope they fit... :) ADD: Seems that the same can be found a bit cheaper here https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32851277108.html (silly me....) ADD2, Actually one can cancel orders for some period at the order list, so was stingy and tried that....

Well screen protectors already exists :) As the screen is identical to the one on the Elephone U Pro, see e.g. this post

To me it is a pure "nice to have", very far from a "must have", but we all use our devices in our own way.

One COULD limit it to photos, simply switching to Photo-mode if started this way, so you would need to explicitly switch to Video - that would be really unlikely to happen by accident in the pocket. :)

If the same button is used to activate an actually take photos, it gives the risk of quite a number of accidental 'pocket-shots'... But I guess it might be handled If one could come up with some clever combo of short&long press to activate it, that was not so complex it was hard to remember, but still would be quite unlikely to happen accidentally. It might also 'waste' a fraction of a second checking with the ambient sensor, to detect if it is likely to still be in a pocket, and if so ignore the activation.