Rob. S.

In my first reply above, I mentioned Tasker – did you have a look at it? From the examples for what it can do, on their website:

There are many reasons imaginable which could justify a higher price than the processor alone might. I mentioned it somewhere else already – these days, a Fairphone 3 got added to the handsets of my household. That's a Snapdragon 632 device and thus, in 2020, a middling performer. Still it is 450€ ($500), whereas I got my similar-performing Moto Z3 Play for 250 € last year. It's the "fair" thing, the 5-year support for hardware and software including security updates, the repairability, which justify the price for those who bought it. I find it easy to justify the Pro1's price premium over oth

@Craig There is also this: https://www.simore.com/en/dual-sim-and-micro-sd-card-simultaneously-hybrid-dualsim-slot-x-extender-2.html – no idea whether it would work with the Pro1, though.

For automation, what comes to my mind for Android is Tasker. (Didn't do much with it myself yet, though.)

Right, that's very close to to what I would have written if I'd have put more time and thought into my post 😉

I already said all that needs to be said: And mistakes? Oh, there were many mistakes. The many delays, the many miscalculations and misjudgements regarding time frames, regarding production and shipping obstacles, the rare, but often overoptimistic announcements and the general lack of official communication, and, yes, some chaos in the order in which shipments occured, with even some IGG backers still not having gotten their phones. But this one, i.e. serving those retailers with a negligible number of phones, wasn't a mistake. After Erik's explanation at the latest (which shouldn't eve

I see your point 😉 – I kept fighting with the portrait style keyboard all time, too, but it was still better than no keyboard at all. Except from that, I found the device itself to be beautifully made... Thanks for the hint regarding LOS.

That is grossly wrong on two accounts. First, they did not prioritize retailers – that would have been true if Amazon and all the other big players would have gotten substantial numbers of devices. In reality, they only prioritized two or three ridiculously small retailers for a vanishingly small number of devices, which is something that shouldn't even be worth mentioning, let alone discussing. Second, they did NOT promise a "bad" thing when they promised those retailers devices. If we could even call it "bad", what I strictly reject, it would have only become "bad" on the day that

True, but that exactly is the problem. If someone needs two SIM cards and an SD card, what do you suggest? That they go and buy a phone without keyboard? 😉

No. Just because they also shipped a vanishingly small number of devices to an even more vanishingly tiny number of small, but committed and therefore important retailers which had been promised to get some, long before it was clear that most orders wouldn't be fulfilled until Christmas, that doesn't mean they "gave preference" to them. The accusation is just ridiculous.

A few years ago, i wouldn't have touched a mobile device without root. Then I got the BlackBerry PRIV which was unrootable (and, advertised as the most secure smartphone in the world, it stopped to get security updates only a few weeks after I bought it). Around that time, more and more essential (to me) apps began to detect root and not run on a rooted device, so I didn't even bother anymore when I replaced the PRIV with the next phone. (Which, to somewhat complete the story which I'm sure I already told elsewhere in this forum, was a Moto Z, right after I had been reading about the firs

I don't mind whether the phone has a screen like the Pro1 or a flat screen with a bezel. When I had the PRIV, I thought the rounded edges were stupid, but then again they rarely got in my way, and there was the nice feature of a battery indicator on one of the edges that could be seen even if something was lying on top of the phone. I guess it's just a software thing to make it more usable, and something F(x)tec might want to improve by exempting the edges from reacting on touch...

Ordered the 711042. I'll report how it goes when I've got both the phone and the holder!

Excellent, thanks! That would be one of these, then, best fit is probably #511307 or #711042 ... 🙂

For car usage, I don't expect to leave the phone in a protective case. None of my earlier car holders would have worked that way... What I'm worried about with an option that just holds the closed phone in portrait mode, though (like the Brodit holder for the P20 Pro), is that it might prevent the phone from closing properly, or is that unfounded?

I guess this would be a case for a 3D printer. Unfortunately I'm not really into that...

As a protective case, I've already decided to try a Huawei P20 Pro flipcase, when my phone finally will arrive, similar to the latest case @EskeRahn has found in his extensive research on that topic. Now one big question for me remains – how will I fix it in my car? If possible, I want to continue using the Brodit holder system which attaches the phone very securly, but still rotatable, to the dashboard so that it stays out of my view through the windscreen. The system consists of two parts – one part dedicated to the specific car, and one part dedicated to the specific phone. The se

@silversolver Yes, I guess i see what you mean, and personally I am a fan of functional design that doesn't get in the way of what I want to accomplish, too. On the other hand, I'm not a general fan of productivity pe se. It's bad enough that the consciousless drive to increase productivity (as one of the major methods to increase profits) haunts virtually every workplace. After work, I'd rather like to see things like fun as the maxim 😉 Economically, by the way, every increase in productivity reduces the value of the produced goods. Which is the major reason why, in an economic s

Among developers, "app" used to be a short form for any kind of "application software program" long before smartphones even existed. There's nothing stupid in it per se, but there's indeed some stupidness in reserving the short form to exclusively denote mobile software...

Their estimates on batches and production in general seem to not have included issues in manufacturing or with suppliers or with supplied parts, whereas reality often includes such issues, nixing estimates no matter how diligently they were made. The good news is, manufacturing does happen, and as long as it does, sooner or later we'll get those phones – even if it is always 'later' in our case...

To put it more politely than Eske 😉 – "representative" is not about the size of the sample, it is about the selection of the sample. A random subset is never representative and therefore does not allow to extrapolate observations onto the whole...

Because a small, random number of cases is never representative for a much larger total. One of the fundamentals of statistics (which, if more widely known and applied, could theoretically prevent a massive amount of prejudice in this world, by the way)... In our case we simply don't know how many of the pre-orderers who never came here in the first place got their phones and how many didn't. It could easily be that within that group the proportion of those who got their devices is significantly larger. But maybe it isn't. We simply cannot know.

https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Fairphone+3+Teardown/125573 https://shop.fairphone.com/en/spare-parts

That reminds me of the fact that there's another smartphone on its way to the household I live in (which is now set to arrive on December 27th, even though the manufacturer said January), a Fairphone 3, the modular design of which probably sets a benchmark for a repairable phone. If I had no need for a keyboard, it might have been my next phone, too.

@cube48, from what you write I gather F(x)tec didn't sent you neither a "stock assigned" note nor a tracking number? Did you take the number you found on the note in your letterbox and check the UPS website to make sure it's the phone?