EskeRahn
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I do get your concern, but as I too is slightly paranoid, I do not see why we would trust build in software on a TCL device more than a third party app? Remember that BB as a brand is now just licensed to be used by Chinese TCL. I trusted the BB brand more while they were delivered by a Canadian company, as I trust the political environment they are operating in more in Canada.
I like to believe that my BB Priv was (well: is) slightly more secure than the pure Android, And definitely more secure than my Samsung S8- that comes with a truck-load of bloat that is marked as system, and requires ADB disable, or rooting to get rid off...
Would I 'trust' an added home-build Password-keeper on the Pro1, if they made one? Well I would see it this way: Though I trust the guys at F(x)tec, I think that the risk of such a small start-up company to accidentally have a security hole in such software would be substantial. So I would suggest to go for some open source software with a high number of users instead.
Personally I'm very glad that they do NOT try to add a lot of software to the native Android.
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I am confused about shipping. Is that quoted ~10 USD charged for international shipping to me, or domestic shipping from a US-based fulfillment center? The email I received makes it sound like $706.78 is my final cost?? I am in California.
$10 in shipping... Lucky you, I was charged €24 (~$27) to Denmark.... :-o
See Erik's post earlier, they send to US-customers from a "Fulfilment centre" in the US.
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It is a new odd bug, that is related to the approval system.
IF a keymaster approves a post, but do NOT make a comment/reply in the thread, the approved comments are in an odd stealth state, until a keymaster make a comment (Yes, seriously!!)
(That is why some might have seen some odd short XXXX-like comments from me, as I try to remember to make a dummy comment after approve, and then quickly Delete it, as this miraculously cleans up the mess....)
...I certainly(!) hope that this will be fixed with the new forum software
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good news, thank you, EskeRahn. in this case it seems that horizontal use of the Pro-1 works with Termux ?
is the Esc-key jump perhaps related to Termux, rather than to Android ? the Esc-key is pretty essential for UNIX stuff.
i am especially curious in trying to use the Right-Alt key separately in a dedicated mode with other keys together as that would help me in bash with my language escapades. although, as netman stated, it remains to be seen if my setup only works with xterm or can be applied to other terminal emulators…
Termux works in Landscape aka Horizontal on a Pro1, yes.
The other questions I can not answer, sorry.
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They should give us early adopters some type of referral bonus, i.e. get 100 people to buy pro1 and you get a free pro2!
Well I see it from another angle: The more we can get to buy a Pro1, the higher the chance there will be a Pro2, Pro3,.... when we want to upgrade...
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moreover, regarding the Pro-1, i am wondering if Termux or JuiceSSH will flawlessly work also in horizontal mode with the physical keyboard ?does anybody here have already experience with the Pro-1 ?
With the Pro1 yes (preproduction unit) but not with SSH. Just opened Termux in the Android Market, and some of the screenshot provided are in landscape… I will try to install
Tried to install, and can see that say Ctrl+A or Alt+1 acts the same way as softkey followed by physical key, so Ctrl and Alt are supported. Though physical "Esc" jumps to the homescreen (where e.g. softkey Esc, just above the physical, followed by D clears to EOL)
ADD: I have suggested fxtec to make a user-setting requiring a long press of Esc to jump to the homescreen.
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moreover, regarding the Pro-1, i am wondering if Termux or JuiceSSH will flawlessly work also in horizontal mode with the physical keyboard ?
does anybody here have already experience with the Pro-1 ?
With the Pro1 yes (preproduction unit) but not with SSH. Just opened Termux in the Android Market, and some of the screenshot provided are in landscape... I will try to install
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Android already supports these things for BlueTooth and USB-OTG keyboards, so it should work without problems :).
Well sure, but the program would still need to know that say "Ctrl" exists to have prepared some sensible specialised action. I mean beyond the general stuff like control navigation, marking and cut&paste within a textbox provided by the Android OS.
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I repeat my old post here.My country have some customs limits. So may price in customs declaration change to suit this limits? I mean 649$->549$ e.g.?
Of course i mean to reduce price only in declaration. It looks like a phone with discount. Is it possible?
What you are requesting is basically customs fraud. So even if they were willing to do so, I highly doubt that they would write it out in public.
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Still, I wonder what will be the future of Fxtec after Pro1 gets fully released. There are >24k preorders but I wonder how many of them will pay. Also, I wonder how many people would like to get a landscape keyboard phone but just didn’t hear about Pro1 yet. Finally, I wonder how many people are there who are waiting for a phone to release and then decide to buy it or not after read reviews of people who preordered it.
Yes only time will tell, but I'm sure that it is only us as the most eager ones that have bought it from pre-orders. I'm sure there is a large group that will wait for the reception of it, and most likely a much larger group that never heard of the Pro1 but could be interested once they learn of the existence (so help spread the message...).
From an egoistic perspecitve: The higher sales the Pro1 gets, the higher profit FxTec will make, and thus the higher chance of them producing a Pro2, Pro3,..... thus providing us with devices I can upgrade to later on...
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I would have bought the Photon Q if the specs weren’t bottom tier for that time. That was part of what killed physical sliders…in the end, they wouldn’t put them out with high end specs so if you wanted flagship specs/quality, there were slabs and that’s it.
Yup. It is the same story with phone sized devices.
You basically can not buy a phone with flagship specs anymore, only phablets!
And there have been no QWERTY-slider with anything close to flagship spec since the SonyEricsson Pro. in 2011.
Thus the request for a flagship speced PHONE with a slider keyboard (that I would prefer) is further away from reality.
BUT if the Pro1 get a smashing success, we just MIGHT get successors, and hopefully one of them would be shrunken to 5¼" display, and thus to phone size - and still have good specs!.
Personally I do not get why manufacturers think that if you want anything but an oversized phablet, you most likely also want it to be a mediocre device...
For the Pro1 I DO understand, that they want to 'test the waters' first to see if QWERTY interest can be woken again, as currently the risk of a fully flagship speced variant of the Pro1 would be very expensive (few buyers means fewer to share the development cost, thus rising the price further).
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It sure would help the phone industry (and us consumers) if Google’s Project Ara would be re-born and we could upgrade the components of the phone instead of having to get a whole new phone every time. That was my last best hope for a keyboard phone, as I figured some company would make a keyboard add on.
That was my hope too. But I guess there are too many money in planned obsolescence to allow for a user and environmental friendly idea like Ara to fly... ;(
One principal 'design flaw' with the Ara was that there were no modules that went all the way through the frame (or attached to the top). That would have allowed for better cameras, without them giving the device a huge bump.
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...we’re importing the Pro1 to the US and later shipping it to you from a US fulfilment centre. We don’t ship from a different country, so there will be no additional import fees on your side. The price that is listed on your order is the final price including shipping and the state tax for goods sold.
Thanks for this clarification :)
Maybe something like that would be beneficial as some 'fine prints' on all orders to the US. (And similar to any other country where you will have a national "fulfilment centre")
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For me it’s not only writing texts and mails but also being able to command a phone with buttons again. I see that system integration with the phone is very solid and gives a room for using keyboard for things like unlocking stuff, opening apps etc. It’s not really a big deal now like it was in times on WM6 because android is made for touchscreen-only but still a nice thing to have. Also, I’m sure I will install PSX and GBA emulators on Pro1 again.
Oh sure it is wonderful to be able to have the keys in many ways!
BUT we should be honest and accept that the majority of apps out there are only optimised for touch, And for many the only keyboard 'support' there is, is what Android provides, allowing us to navigate and select with the keys.
Even a build in app like Settings, well it technically DO work with keys, but it is way easier to do almost all in it by touch, e.g. changing "Display [item] Size" under Display, I would first need to select the right part with Shift+Tab, then the slider by Up-Arrow, and finally move the slider with the lef/right arrows. It is SO much easier to just pull the slider... HAD it been optimized, the focus on entry would be the slider, so I could use the arrows immediately...
BUT you can have apps that does not work properly with touch were you actually NEED the keyboard. GSMArena has an app that (at the least in the beta I tried), when you set min=max on a search slider, and have them to the left, you can only undo that with a physical keyboard, as you can not select the min slider by touch, as it is 'behind' the max, and as you can not move the max, you are locked... *LOL*
I tried to make a thread here with apps optimised for keyboard usage. And I hope to see a lot of suggestions there, once the PRO1 hits the streets. :D
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Little did he know that there *was* an S4 with a physical keyboard at the time he wrote that article. It was called the Galaxy S Relay 4G. I just did a brain transfer from the one I was using for the past couple years to my last backup, identical phone. I’ve gone through about 5 or 6 since 2012, with one being dead on arrival (keyboard to screen ribbon cable only worked for a day and that is what has failed on just about all of these, with the exception of one being a broken screen). I sure hope the Pro1 comes before this one decides to die too! :-)
He he. Strictly the "Relay" was way closer to an "S3 mini".
See e.g. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=5125&idPhone3=5033
I think his point was exactly that there were no keyboard phones with 'flagship' specs, And by "S4" was referring to the "Galaxy S4" not the "Snapdragon S4" chipset.
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Yeah, it was mainly written in response to the less than expected sales of Photon Q, the last landscape slider. So before Priv – you’ll note galaxy s4 and iphone 5 are new models when that was written. I think the verge brought it back to the front in 2016 cuz of blackberry release tho.
Yup. And that one not really globally available. I think the last attempt was the SonyEricsson (Neo) Pro the year before.
Actually SE had a really interesting idea there in 2011. They released four spec-wise identical devices, including all with 854x480, that (almost) only differed in scale of display and device.
The compact Ray, the normal Neo, The keyboard variant of the Neo called Pro and finally the then ridiculously humongous Arc (I remember people laughing when someone used that huge plate for calls - today the 63mm would rank it a super compact...)
The Ray was really elegant, I used the Pro for years, and until a few months ago carried it around as a spare phone in my bag.
Ray vs Pro vs Neo: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3972&idPhone2=3779&idPhone3=3734
Ray vs Pro vs Arc: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3972&idPhone2=3779&idPhone3=3619
(Note that most sites incorrectly claims the Pro as 13.5mm, that is a typo, GSMArena has recently corrected their base to the actual 15.3mm)
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… So, my post didn’t get through the moderator queue or something? Something something Paypal’s gone something something…
....See other thread, I wish we had a queue.... we currently need to look at all threads one by one to see if anything is pending, so only the newer threads get somewhat frequent checks...But the comment in question was approved about two hours ago....
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Hmmm… The Paypal option was there this morning, but now that I’m ready to pay it’s gone :-(
Are you sure? I'm quite sure it was not there Thursday morning (CEST), I looked for it, and found only direct credit card payments.
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The big question if it will be manage to catch others that use their device a lot for entering text.
I think the timing for that right now is excellent. As said in that interview people wanted iphones and galaxy phones back then, but now those are boring and everyone has one.
Yes the folding sure could open peoples minds to what a phone is again.
The article is really old (2013, though revived in 2016), so old that they it neither include BB Priv, nor BB Key½.
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Though I hope it will, I really really doubt it will be a smashing success selling millions.
But I definitely think there is a niche for it also in 2019.
On one side old dinosaurs like myself, that texts/mails a lot will welcome it as a long awaited return..
The big question if it will be manage to catch others that use their device a lot for entering text.
Apart from the obvious benefit of typing text and mails, I also see the Pro1 competing with tablets with keyboards and ultraportables, for those that enters a lot of text info, but do not need to also use it for e.g. sales presentations. I imagine doctors, and sales representatives visiting existing customers registering renewed orders and stuff like that. Or people inspecting various stuff, where they rarely do drawings but register text wise. Think e.g. health inspectors.
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Hmm. Maybe you could get them to give you a list of ALL the fields they expect, then FxTec could see which one(s) they do not currently provide?
as I said, they wouldn’t tell me.
I assumed they would have some public available guidelines of what fields of info they expect.
As others can pay they must require something that is not usually required from banks in general.
Buying online, some US sites REQUIRE fields like "county" and/or "State" to be filled in, despite tiny Denmark does not have a similar administrative division - so I have to invent something to fill in.... Could be something similar.
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Maybe someone from fxtec reads this: I got through to my bank, they removed the lock and told me the issue is that FXTec have not submitted/provided all neccessary information for credit card payments. They wouldn’t tell me what was missing either.
Hmm. Maybe you could get them to give you a list of ALL the fields they expect, then FxTec could see which one(s) they do not currently provide? (I know nothing on how card payment requests actually works - I have only used cards to pay)
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The same for me, also QWERTZ and Coupon calculations were right.
Well with a coupon you should be safe to be in the first badge I guess :)
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It sounds to me like you might be sending from a mail-server that does not present itself in a proper way to the receiving server. A guess could be "Helo Reject"
Personally I have had issues like that where benign incoming mails where rejected by my hosting provider's spam server.
If might be that the fxtec mail-server got a strict setup too.
Try to send from a different mail-server, e.g. a gmail account, to check that it goes through.