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Nope, as long as the display only curves in one direction it is fairly easy to have a real glass protector. They exist for many other models, including BB Priv and several Samsung Galaxy S-series models. Also be aware that it is harder to open a tilted slider with box-shape(!) I tried to illustrate it in another thread So it would require substantial tilted bezels, like those e.g. the Nokia E7 had, for good reason. See e.g. this from gsmarena https://fdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/nokia-e7/gal/gsmarena_018.jpg

Not quite. You can easily find FLAT glass protectors, the problem is that they are not curved. It WOULD be possible to make them as the display (similar to e.g. to BB Priv) only curve in one direction, and NOT at the ends. Here you can see the difference, from this early review https://eskerahn.dk/?p=3286 https://eskerahn.dk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/DSC08522_Crop.jpg https://eskerahn.dk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Pro1_USB_Off_Centre.jpg The first is glass - the second is not

Wishes for a Pro2 / some are not easy to combine, but just wishing here - un-prioritised ... 1) Landscape keyboard slider (of course) 2) Back that is a removable batterypack, that comes in more than one size (optimally Slim, Std and Large) 3) Physically no more than 65mm wide (one hand operable by most adults) 4) Dual SIM and/or eSIM 5) Separate hybrid UFS/MicroSD slot (UFS-cards means that the build in storage can be kept lo, to keep the price down, with no performance penalty) 5) IP rating 6) FM-Radio 7) DAB+ Radio (yet to see a phone with it....)

As far as I know, they will not initially offer it. But multiple different types exist out there, e.g. from aliexpress or Ebay (some for less than $1 each). As a startup I think they are way to busy to consider additional stuff, but hopefully they will make some arrangements later. For now I suggest you order some, so you got them from day one you get the device.

Well as we do not know what license is missing, it is hard to say how's functioning or crippled it would be if shipped without that software. For what little we know it could be anything from the entire android to just the software for the FM-radio. But I guess it is something rather vital since they find its worth postponing.

But at the least we (finally) got official wording on what is going on. I was getting quite annoyed of having to rely on guesses and rumours.

A fun fact is that it is easier to open due to the edge design than it would have been with a box-design like my simplified sketch. Because we really need to push the bottom of the display part, and that is harder on a more square design! Studying the motion in finer details than can be seen by the previous gif, it can be seen that the top part of the display practically does not move initially, and the movement there is, is almost perpendicular to the keyboard, and that is why pushing the top blocks rather than open. Here a detail study of the first 10%

One thing that certainly would benefit from a quick-start guide in the package is the opening mechanism. People having used one of the old Nokias, will have no problems, as the muscle memory kicks in. But people being used to a flat slider, or just intuitively pushing a flat unidirectional push, will find them self having trouble opening it. Like the pedals of a bike, It does not work if your push does not follow the movement of the mechanism. It is not AT ALL complicated though. I made this exaggerated sketch of the first few mm push in my review of the early preproduction unit to illus

It would be nice with some pdf somewhere online, it does not need to be printed - I agree that is just waste of paper. And as phones (both Androids and Ios) has stuck with no UI-devolpment of the hardware other than reduced functionality for the last ten years, you are right, manuals are just a waste. Though when we DO see some changed, an electronic user guide can be nice. Not the least the key functionalities not printed on the keys.

One of the great things about the Pro1 is that it is NOT infested with a lot of bloat, so a user manual could be limited to what distinguishing it from tock android, a link to suitable Google doc. The ONLY differences I see that need description * The Keyboard and slider, apart from obvious letters etc. * The Launcher app * The Camera, including button and app * The FM Radio and app. So not a huge thing to do, and mostly describing software, so would be likely to change to the last minute as they improve the software...

That was an interesting idea. But my GUESS is that is it not finding the bugs that would be delaying, but fixing them. But it is certainly an interesting idea to extend the beta test to a larger group, thus using the 'waste time' constructive. I will try to escalate that (too)... (But could be that the additional administrative work with NDAs etc is not worth it for them)

So sad to hear that. ;(

We (in pluralis majestatis) thank you ;) ...and sorry for being late today, have been busy with paid work.

That is how I understand it - but I do not know that it is so.

You can distinguish the the new layouts from all the old ones by the 'cut outs' bottom left and right. These are to simplify disassembly of the phablet.. [attachment file=35598] Here from their twitter [attachment file=35599] [attachment file=35600]

I think the shifted QWERTY is great for languages without additional common national letters beyond A-Z. Though I would have preferred the digit keys to follow suite. That is: "3" not "4" should be above and between "W" and "E". I'm awaiting both a qwertY and a qwertZ variant, so will report back how both works for English too.

Let us hope you are right and the first are shipped Friday, but I would be very pleasantly surprised if the shipping will not span over several days. So doubt it will be most that get it as early as Monday.

Let us hope that still holds. I guess that with the IFA well ended, we will soon hear news from the staff on the subject.

...And that is exactly why it is (also) a bad idea to have ordinary users work with an account with administrative rights in daily use. And also why 'newer' versions of windows give you a security prompt asking you to confirm that you really want to use this extra power at some situations. Like installing an app available for all users, and not just current user.

I'm sure they will post more info when the shipping starts, and as they have not said otherwise, I by "Mid September" expect it to start in the next weeks. I do not know, but will assume that our order status currently "Processing" will change to something like "Completed" or "Shipped".

I guess that on rooted phones the risk of an app stealing entries to other programs -including credentials entered for bank apps- are higher, and it is to prevent that scenario, they reject running on a rooted device. But of course that it is NOT roored does not remove all risks, but some risks are reduced. So secure? Nah. But less insecure? Sure.

It is better that people that know what they are doing can lift the protection, than people not knowing what they are doing have to figure out how to apply protection..... IMHO

Consider rooting a bit like walking a dog without a leash. Usually a much more pleasant experience (for both dog and owner) BUT the risk of things accidentally happening is also bigger. From the dog being hit by a car to the dog biting another dog (or human). I'm not saying you should not root (I usually walk my dog without a leash too...), only that people should always remember there is risks involved.

Oh I meant we can buy cheap phone holders for next to nothing on e.g. ebay or aliexpress, and those could be modified, if the the clearance is not sufficient.

Yup. the clearance between two symmetric supports would need to be about 34mm, and not all holders have that. Though usually of simple plastic, I think it will likely be quite easy to widen on one side.