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The only place I in 'normal' usage missed the sticky is to do Alt+Tab. Currently I just let go the double hand grip with the right hand somewhat for that. But I hope that YellowArrow+Tab is going to be a double for that somehow.

According to this: hhttps://source.android.com/devices/input/key-character-map-files#keyboard-type-declaration it seems to be a matter of the KCM file signalling "FULL" or "ALPHA", so MIGHT be as easy as having it as two 'languages'... The "character picker" mentioned in the example for ALPHA sounds interesting too!!

Well you got Ctrl-YellowArrow next to each other on both sides, it is just pressing a thumb on both with one hand, combined with whatever key with the other thumb in the other side. No need to let go the grip at all :)

Shift is part of "All"... The suggestion with THREE options, was to allow a mode where stickyness was limited to the modifiers only available on one side. Sticky modifiers are used to compensate for the lacking ability to do it directly with multiple fingers. But as there are Shift, Ctrl and YellowArrow in both sides, it would be faster to write say P to use the Left Shift combined with the P by the right thumb. It is not as much a matter of it being complicated (I think), as a matter of it being a nuisance slowing down typing in the common scenario. Sure for the complex multi-modifier

Just a hint to everyone: Please remember that Alt+Tab task-switching is supported by Android too. This is most often much more efficient than screen-splitting on a phablet.

Yes I can confirm that the test-version already does that (for Danish) so just an omission in the descriptive layout. ;)

Well even two handed it is a matter of the grip. The intuitive good grip operation is to hold in in both hands and type with the thumbs. And here it could be awkward to press say Alt+1. At the least it would require to let go the grip of the right hand. But one could even hold it with one hand completely passive and operate it completely by four or five fingers on the free hand - and if so sticky would not be needed, (except for some extreme combos like Shift+Alt+YellowArrow+P So much a matter of how you hold it if it is needed, I prefer the simple two thumb operation, but might chang

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I agree that sticky modifiers could be a nice OPTION. BUT remember that with Shift, Ctrl and YellowArrow on BOTH sides, we actually got easy access to FIVE layouts with a single thumb from either side: * (None), * Shift, * Ctrl, * YellowArrow * Ctrl+YellowArrow And I suggest to handle the last one as you would an AltGr in the mapping. I'm not saying that we should not have sticky keys, merely that we might not need them as bad as we thought. It is unclear if Sym is supposed to be used as yet another modifier key, or to launch some symbol library, or something else.... So m

Currently they layouts are made so the two letters immediate to the right of P and L are correct. But the letter two positions right of L (that is Ä in Swedish) is the problem, as this position physically is Enter on the shifted qwerty. So the two most oblivious possibilities are to re-purpose the physical Del key of full height, and move the Del function to the "=" left of Backspace OR to move the Ä to the reduced height "=" even further from it's standard position. We have also been experimenting with a non-shifted US QWERTY layout for the DE QWERTZ physical layout. I would not be surpris

AFAIK they are independent.

Hmm, why would one exclude the other? It is not aPple, but seems like decent people, so they might well expect some of the users to keep the device for many years, even if one or more new models are offered.

It is not the right forum (nor thread) for discussing that. There is another thread on what apps that benefits from the landscape and keyboard Pro1 here.

Yes I have suggested that too, and suggested that they also offered an option of having two crop masks to the same image [attachment file=34301]

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I can say that it is beyond speculation :-D I'm currently in dialogue with Anssi Hannula (The brain behind FinQWERTY), and has already had an early version that make Danish on the shifted US QWERTY much better than the android default available as stock. 8-) He is even preparing the needed adjustments to use it based on the unshifted QWERTZ as well.

I have no inside knowledge on the shipping - And even if I had, I would not be allowed to share it.

Thanks, a few comments: * on keyboards LEDs see this tweet a number of LEDs can be seen, but it is not as extreme as one per, key, so even f they are controlled individually (and I doubt that) you would not be able to light individual keys. * the touch at the edges is deliberately ignored, as the earlier firmware often gave unwanted screen interactions opening and closing the screen.

It is not just the display foil that is identical, it is the whole display assembly with digitizer, glass surface (and holes). BF060Y8M-AJ0-7702 You can see the fit in the link to another thread a few comments above https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/bundled-screen-protector/page/2/#post-33213 Here a link to one of the places you can get the BF060Y8M-AJ0-7702 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32952316407.html

I'm quite surprised (bordering on shocked) to read this. As the keyboard is THE main thing on this device I am(/was?) expecting some super perfected software for this specific hardware keyboard, and not something just adjusting whatever Android happens to have build in. I REALLY hope to get a MUCH MUCH better keyboard experience than what a random BT keyboard can offer on any device. Sure the sliding mechanism in it self is a plus, but PLEASE let us benefit from the great keyboard. Let us remap things freely for any language or special usage, including all sort of combined modifier keys

Exactly. and I would suggest to let the user select these sticky or not. Perhaps with some easy swap between the two states. Or even an automode, that detect if it is still and horizontal. If so it is likely to be on a table, and thus sticky is not needed... But I would happily settle with some plain key-combo to switch sticky/non-sticky.

Just saw that now even aPple let people repair their devices at partly independent repair shops https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_will_finally_let_you_repair_your_outofwarranty_iphone_at_independent_shops-news-38936.php Though they still need to be 'approved' by aPple... so the independence should be taken with a truck load of salt.

I'm also eagerly awaiting to see how some more finished keyboard software will be. I have only tried the pre-production thing, it is really limited in accessing anything interesting outside the most basic letters and a few symbols. But they must have put the Alt, Ctrl, Sym keys there for a reason, so I guess we just have to wait and see.... I hope we can soon have some information on the files controlling stuff, so we can make it fully customizable, And hopefully it can be altered without rooting, I have tried to ask for info on that since spring, and has optimistically started a minor pro

It is inaccurately just called microSD, see e.g. this for details. But I guess that if you insert an old microSD-card it will work too.

https://www.livechatinc.com/typing-speed-test/ NOTE that this is language dependent, as the mean word length varies substantially between languages. see e.g. http://www.ravi.io/language-word-lengths and https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-longest-and-shortest-languages-in-terms-of-average-length-of-words