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Pro¹ X – state of production and delivery


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8 minutes ago, EskeRahn said:

Have I missed some announcement, or am I interpreting what they are writing wrong? Will it initially be available with these two OS only? I see no mentioning of plain stock Android.

I did notice that they in the May update mentioned these two, but did not reflect on stock Android not being mentioned.

Add: The June update mentioned it though (my emphasising):

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....initial drivers and optimisation of Android OS on the new SD662 board

So I assume I am just over-interpreting.....

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I think, as before, Android is being done "in-house" by their contractor.  This update is talking about getting reference devices to external developers and that those devs have made progress.  At least, that's my interpretation.  😉

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1 minute ago, Hook said:

I think, as before, Android is being done "in-house" by their contractor.  This update is talking about getting reference devices to external developers and that those devs have made progress.  At least, that's my interpretation.  😉

That contractor has been MIA for more than a year now. lol

I don't think we will see official stock android 10 anymore. Although a heads up from Fxtec would be well appreciated at this point because everything points to the base Pro1 being left for dead. (save for Lineage and Linux...)

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1 hour ago, Tsunero said:

That contractor has been MIA for more than a year now. lol

I don't think we will see official stock android 10 anymore. Although a heads up from Fxtec would be well appreciated at this point because everything points to the base Pro1 being left for dead. (save for Lineage and Linux...)

The Pro1 certainly won't be updated, but I'm still pretty sure the contractor is working on the Pro1x, whether the same contractor or a different one.  They most likely had to initiate a new contract. The contractor does the initial development job but is pretty bad at any maintenance follow-through.  I assume that will probably be true for the Pro1x as well-- it will get an initial not well refined version of Android (probably 11) and will fall behind over time.  I suspect they don't have a lot of choices of contractor and that they have no clout at all being a very small company.  They get what they can afford.  I've been in the position of contracting from a very small player.  It's not a pleasant experience.

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As mentioned in our May update, we experienced a delay whilst waiting for Qualcomm to approve the amendments we made to the Snapdragon 662 chipset. In addition, Shenzhen has recently experienced a covid outbreak resulting in our engineer team being unable to get into the office and isolating themselves for 21 days. To be honest, this has been a bit of a logistical nightmare seeing as our components suppliers in Taiwan were affected and tough mobility restrictions have only just been lifted this week. This has impacted the delivery of key components required to begin manufacturing devices this month. With this in mind, we have re-evaluated the manufacturing timeline and expect shipping to begin between October and November.


A 600,- 662 phone delivered 2022. It's obsolete the day it's released 😖

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11 hours ago, DieBruine said:

As mentioned in our May update, we experienced a delay whilst waiting for Qualcomm to approve the amendments we made to the Snapdragon 662 chipset. In addition, Shenzhen has recently experienced a covid outbreak resulting in our engineer team being unable to get into the office and isolating themselves for 21 days. To be honest, this has been a bit of a logistical nightmare seeing as our components suppliers in Taiwan were affected and tough mobility restrictions have only just been lifted this week. This has impacted the delivery of key components required to begin manufacturing devices this month. With this in mind, we have re-evaluated the manufacturing timeline and expect shipping to begin between October and November.


A 600,- 662 phone delivered 2022. It's obsolete the day it's released 😖

yes yes it is, cpu wise. But the keyboard is timeless. The Question is only, what is the keyboard worth for you?
I am currently an owner of a fried prawn, using my old phone (nokia 6.1). I do not miss the faster cpu, I miss the keyboard... every f**king time.
 

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On 7/15/2021 at 10:04 PM, DieBruine said:

A 600,- 662 phone delivered 2022. It's obsolete the day it's released 😖

True, if you don't count the keyboard...

Still, my impression – not just from what I myself do (hardly any of which needs more than a low-end SoC) , but also what I read about SoCs and their real-world performance – is that 3 or 4 years old high-end chips like the SD 835 we have in our Pro1 hardly show any lack of real-world performance even today. And the more current, but also more lowly SD 662 shows similar CPU benchmarks, it's just the GPU that comes with a potentially noticeable drop of performance. Any real world applications which don't heavily rely on GPU performance will work just as well as with the Pro1 – which should be good enough for almost anything anyone will ever try to do with it for a few years to come...

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1 hour ago, OKSun said:

What is the source of the info? Did I miss any official communication on this?

It would indeed be nice with some official info on what is going to happen with the original Pro1 - I am unaware of any info. Peronally I have given up hope on any updates. And should we get any after all, I will see it as a pleasant surprise.

So I guess our best chance of a somewhat updated Android system is LineageOS 18, optionally with OpenGapps or MindTheGapps. But it will require som rooting trickery for some security demanding apps like banking apps to work... See the LineageOS 18 thread

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7 hours ago, OKSun said:

What is the source of the info? Did I miss any official communication on this?

Sorry, I did say that with a bit too much certainty.  I have no official source for that, but now that they are focused on developing for the 662 SOC and, given that they have not provided any updates for over a year, I find it unlikely that they can spread their limited resources to providing updates for the 835 SOC.  Would love to be wrong.  As @EskeRahnpointed out, Lineage is currently required to keep the Pro1 up to date and I have happily gone there.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, EskeRahn said:

Stick-splitting: slightly under, it was stamped 2020-08-25. 😇

True, but I believe the security update was April 2020, which was the yardstick I was using.  😉

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On 7/20/2021 at 10:20 AM, zundappchef said:

honnestly i have given up ever getting one 
Hope they had fun with my money

Lets see if Blackberry wil come forward 2021 like they prommised 

They actually have a pretty good track record in delivery the stuff sometime.
It just takes forever.

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