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This attitude is beginning to be quite annoying. If you do not want to wait, don't do pre-orders, but just go to a store and by some fruit-crap or similar....

What gave you the idea that it should be a wordpress number??? But of course not all pre-orders can be expected to have been paid, so being number #22001 does not mean that there are 22000 paid orders that needs to be handled first.

If I remember right you are a qwertZ user, and from what Erik wrote earlier we are such a small part of the whole that we are likely to all be included in the first batch.

Oh you can do most of those with the German qwertZ as is, though I do not think ő, ű are included. (for other readers, these are NOT ö, ü, though hard to see in this font size). But I'm sure a software fix can be found for that, adding those somewhere. They are considering a common layout for Scandinavian languages. I have no idea if there are enough (potential) buyers for other qwertZ using languages to make up for a dedicated print, but let us see the reactions your post generates. They made a form for requesting qwertZ if you already placed a qwertY order: https://www.fxtec.com/reques

I had the same thought. I'm sure I will see them say "Nice", and then never even unpack less use them... No matter how good looking they are.

Well t be more precise two of the images are (crops of) the same, and two are not.

Forgot to reply to this. And yes, I'm quite convinced that it is based on the AOSP Launcher<3

Ah of course, yes if they could promise deliveries in amble time before Christmas, it sure could give some extra sales . :)

Indeed, but do we even know if they plan to attempt to channel them through traditional warehouses? It might be such a niche oriented product that it could be hard to get physical warehouses to want to stock them.

You are just guessing... And as we have no clue on neither the number of pre-orders nor the daily production rate, nor when the production started, we obviously have no idea of the time frame to complete the pre-orders. But sure for new orders “Shipping globally is estimated to be early October 2019.” does not add up with other info.

Oh you can get better than a render. Here an image from twitter The most substantial difference is that the qwertZ is NOT shifted, but standard.

Please read the answer by Erik.... It wont.

....And the number of 'empty' tweets could also make a large portion just ignore it, and just patiently wait for the long awaited return of a real landscape keyboard slider to actually arrive at their doorstep...

I have made this for the delivery and customs issues some are experiencing, so other can find hints on how to deal with the couriers. Will try to move things in here from various other threads, let me know if I overlooked moving something relevant.

Thanks for the details. Just curious, is the first batch(es) a mixture of shifted QWERTY and unshifted QWERTZ, or should we expect the QWERTZ slightly after the QWERTY? Some of us are a little concerned about the whereabouts of the fulfilment centre and the date IF it ends with a hard Brexit on Oct 31.

Yes, the balance point is almost exactly where the screen part meet the base when opened (see images here), so both ways are possible. I guess it will be a matter of thumb length. If your thumbs are long enough, it is quite comfy to support the phone on your middle fingers, place the index fingers on on the almost vertical support plate, and the corners of the phone in the centre of your palms.

No, but the 'answer' would be the same. We are used to a specific layout, and thus we can use it without looking (much). I'm not claiming that staggered QWERTY is optimal, just that it can be used directly as we are used to it. I'm sure there are other print arrangements and other key arrangement that would be faster to use once learned, but none of them could be used with zero learning from day one. But you can type text immidiately on the Pro1 if you are used to a PC. Well that is for the QWERTZ you can. I'm not a fan of the shift of the letter part only of the QWERTY. And this requires

You got a point there, and as the keys are curved, the keys of the neighbouring rows are lowest where the keys meet, reducing the risk further.

Just curious, did you get any reaction to your offer?

Well as you wrote: That is what we are used to. If you start arguing staggered is not ideal, you could also say that "QWERTY" isn't, it was developed to reduce the risk of entanglement of neighbouring arms, which have not been an issue for about half a century... So you could answer your question by answering why PC keyboards are (still) staggered QWERTY. There has been a HUGE number of attempts with other layouts, but the majority still use the old typewriter based one.

We do not know where this "EU fulfilment warehouse" is located. But let us hope it is in say Ireland. Perhaps to the north...

The link for the form is here: https://www.fxtec.com/request-qwertz/

I still think it would be better with something along the lines suggested here A base case covering the lower part, and then a 'flap', that can be held behind the screen when open..

Send a mail to support as quickly as possible to try to have them change the order.

Indeed, IF that is openly available, and not something 'deep' in their take on Android.