Doktor Oswaldo

They will not be included, the sleeve will be sent for free to all preorders and the headphones will be sent to all preorders done before the 24th of june

Thank you for the clarification, most likely an old information (Or I was just plain wrong). Still was stated that all backers are in the first batch. Isn't that the case anymore?

Please write a Mail to the support and update us. Since they told us, that the numbers of IGG backers is smaller than 100, you should get your unit (or the batch was really really small).

Yeah me too, but you must remember. What Chen is posting on TMO is no FxTec-Statement it is a private statement from Chen on a board he has used for years. So I think the actual problem is not in posting there but in the messy communication altogether.

The communication is not only late, but often contradictory. Not official contradictory, but at least is a huge mess. We have following channels: Official Twitter, which does only spam Support-Team answers only direct Mails, no informations for the masses Official mails (spare) Website which has often wrong/old Information on it! This Forum which is the official Forum but we are more or less alone (Except Erik who does not communicate officially on behalf of the company) TMO where Chen does post but also not officially! On top of that, Eriks role was l

Maybe because you don't have a preorder?

Oh sorry got confused. These slabs are looking all the same? (Hopefully netman will buy that one)

And luckily it will not be released

This is clearly the case of the xiami mi mix 4:

Honestly I understand your fear. But they would have saved them a lot of shitpost by leaving open gates. But they do not seem to be informed enough that they are able to leave gates open, or at least not the right ones. So I understand your fear and anger, well I am not amused myself. But I think you see to much in that. They actually do the opposite. They do not leave gates open, and then run through the door. I have given up listen to the communication, but still wait for the phone. The only thing I still care is getting the phone before X-mas and that people here stay a little calm.

We have been complaining for a long time now. I don't think it will help. If you think otherwise, go ahead. But I just do not think they have the possibilities to do better until the phone is shipped.

Stop it Karen xD of course he meant 2019! What are you trying to achieve here? They can tell you anything and don't do it afterwards anyway! I don't want to attack you or anything. But I think we all should decide for ourself now if we want to take it up with a company like FxTec or not and stop attacking people like Erik!

Exactly that is what I said before. Wait or don't, cancel or don't cancel but there is no need to complain here non stop.

Realistic guess? December.

I for myself prefer the sleeve. I can't see how a case could work properly with this phone design (especially with the round screen). A etui or a skin would be a possibility but I am happy with a sleeve.

Depending on the case, some people may skip the whole package. Would surely save them some cost on shipping. But to decide that, the headphones and case have to be done and presented to us.

I can't, I just said I think this presentation is accumulated to display a single fact (nearly 50% are in this group) Sure, I just wanted to point out, that it may be a bad idea to take the data distribution out of a result presentation. This presentation seems to be tailored to support the "50% are in this group" fact.

That is what I mean, the Chart does not show the distribution for the data collection, only the distribution of the data for the presentation!

Well in this example I would argue that the data collection possibly had more details than the display of the result. Since in this graphic only one category is relevant it is not too bad to merge the last n groups. Still does not accurately show the results. You know what they say: Never trust a chart you didn't manipulate yourself.

A lot of people seem to think like you, but in my opinion the poll is correct. I myself are in my 20's and my first (and best) smartphone was the famous N900. Hwkb are the superior form of input. And everyone who was once used to it knows that no matter what Age. It has nothing to to with not getting the new stuff.

JFC uses the same webcompany as FxTec does WEBFX EMEA LIMITED. So most likely they just copied code from that project. Which is not a good sign for the company, but I would argue that FxTec has nothing to do with the tracking at all. And most we are just fucking up the numbers for JFC.

Ups that should mean "was not necessarily to improve phones"

Well technology evolves that is true, but often what we get an use is dictated by the profit of companies, not by technological Progression. A slab is just easier and cheaper to make. Often the best things are still hand crafted and out of wood. Technological progression is just the reason the big companies are selling us, but often it is economic progression not technological. The funny thing is, people always believe them. Keyboard has died because Touchscreens became better? Not really. Sure there was a technological progression needed, but the Goal was not necessarily to improve phones.

The reason is: the sample size is too small...

The phone is finally coming together. But there is a lot of critics again. That's why I thought a quick reminder to have a look at the overall picture may be a help. This whole project is a great achievement and the price feels not that high any more, since we know a worker has 4-5 hours to assemble the phone. Still I understand everyone complaining. Again there is a delay and they tried to sell it as "on track" to us. Communication is still suboptimal at best. But if you have a look at the video you should see what we all tend to forget. These guys are engineers not sales peo