Doktor Oswaldo

Absolutely agree with you. That is all true. But still no reason to think they lied to us, or the phone as another delay and stuff like that. Like many people have done here. I mean this could all be the case, but we just don't know yet.

Well I agree with most of you. They did say they will start shipping on 29th from the fulfilment centre. Another 2-3 day delay would not be to bad, but the communication would again have been horrible. But guys come on. We do not know how the post of erik was exactly meant. Most of the time he has not the whole information anyway (poor guy). We should wait for the official update (which I assume will have to come today). Then we can start panic if it is needed. But at the moment it is useless speculations.

Yep, I know resources are scarce (Or I suppose it is so). But for a project like this a weekly Update would have been nice (May have a look at the Cosmo, they did great). Sure it is not a crowdfunded Project and I think people forget that sometimes. It was totally fine for the first part of the project. But since you had a delay after we paid, it would have been reasonable to do something like a weekly update. Could only be 3 Sentences.

Don't worry, I don't think it is an issue at all. I would not even thought about that if they hadn't shifted the keyboard. Now I started thinking about it and I am interested on what the best layout would be. Maybe it would even be great to adjust the keys in a circular manner so they are more thumb centric. But that is all just thinking, I strongly suggest a plain old QWERTY !. Everything else may be hard to sell and hard to learn, even so it may be better in the long run.

Something like that (Disclaimer: Poor edit):

Finally enough phones to play agent and just step on your phone after finishing a call. A dream comes true. P.S. I think it would be easier to just give eske a container full. Logistics are less complicated that way.

Thanks for the image, exactly what I mean. While I still would prefer a non shifted QWERTY, I think this would be better shift to do. But one would have to test that. It surely is highly unusual. Normally I have a strong opinion against strange layouts, because you have years to get the invested time back (looking at you dvorak) and can't use your pals equipment anymore. But since a phone does need another muscle memory anyway (thumb typing) it may be an idea to fully optimize it. Another Idea would be to make the keys smaller and leave the middle empty, like some ergonomic keyboar

The pro1 features a shifted layout to make it easier to type. But since the keys in the middle are often hardest to type on a keyboard slider, wouldn't it be better to shift the layout to the opposite direction (have special keys in the middle) like some strange keyboard do? This is not common and I still would prefer a non shifted US-Layout. But to actually solve the problem of the hard to reach middle keys, this would be more stable than the current shift since you can grab it normally, wouldn't it? What do you think?

To be clear: I do not feel betrayed or something by FxTec. I am not angry at them. I just wish the phone becomes a smashing success. In my eyes it is important to not send potential customers away angry. Because every customer you get at the beginning results in a lot of potential customers. It would be a pity to do genius hardware and then loose the customer with unnecessary stuff like that. This conversation drifted completely in the wrong direction (mainly because of me, sorry). So please focus on my feedback not on the legal stuff. Please write an email to the time if you are one

A last update to point out what I wanted to say. I will not discuss the issue any further (promised :-)) I don't care if legal actions are possible or not. But they did some shady moves. I don't recommand anybody to try any legal actions at all. While I am sure it is a contract I think you likely lose because of special conditions of pre-orders. All I say is: FxTec must work at that. Stop communication wrong dates. Stop saying the price will only increase outside of the US and then increase it everywhere. And stop this preoder thing. Sit together look what happened, make a statement and

Nope, wrong. And wrong again. Firstly what is about items that are paid and not delivered? If we follow your statement that would be okay because there is no contract because the item didn't got shipped? BS. You are even entitled to get your damage paid because something you ordered did not get delivered or not in time. For example: If you order 200 Sausages because you want to sell them over the lunch, and the butcher is to late (lets say 2:00 pm). The butcher will have to pay your damage if the delivery time is part of the contract. The question is not if this is a

Thank you, works like a charm!

Chen said this on TMO:

I would totally buy that too!

I do not know the specifics in the UK but I would be astonished if this would not be a contract there. That would mean that the contract law works completely different there than in the rest of Europe. You agreed to pay a certain amount of money and FxTec agreed to deliver you a device => contract. Legally 'pre-orders' do not exists, these are just contracts of sales with a certain condition (later delivery date, maybe uncertain delivery date). Well since FxTec gave us the possibility to move back from the contract without any damage this may allow them to do the same. But I doubt

Some of us can't change the username here, and it is not the username anymore but the first part of the Mail-Address. Update: It seems to be already resolved

One thing: For a lot of people the username has changed to the first part of the mail address. This is not to bad for me but it displays some peoples real names. This must be fixed asap!

This finally looks like professional work. A big improvement on the design front!

Yep! I asked for multiple times and hinted that that system will be used against them. I do see it as the right step do cancel the open preorders, but that should have been said when asked. Since we pointed pointed out that the system is flawed I cannot agree with that move. It may even allow to take legal actions against them. Of course I won't take any legal action against FX. But they should really be cautious. That is not the first time they do not hold onto Information they give: Delivery date on website, price will only increase outside of the EU, cancellation of the preorders. Whe

It should be possible to write a programm which does that. Basically you could assign keys to simulated touchscreen input: iew.setOnTouchListener(new OnTouchListener() { public boolean onTouch(View v, MotionEvent event) { Toast toast = Toast.makeText( getApplicationContext(), "View touched", Toast.LENGTH_LONG ); toast.show(); return true; } }); // Obtain MotionEvent object long downTime = SystemClock.uptimeMillis(); long eventTime = SystemClock.uptimeMillis() + 100; float x = 0.0f; float

I would also gladly forgo without headphones just to be a bit more eco-friendly. As many others I have more then enough in-ear buds and the fxtec one would be thrown directly into my drawer. Depending on how the case is looking I would pass on that too. But: There was no official statement that the case and the headphones are not delivered. Sure they could be delivered afterwards, but they should inform customers about that! P.S. I think the only valid options here are with or without. Asking for something other (skin, shirt, etc...) does most likely not help fxtec. A shirt may be chea

Nope, US-intl all the way. But I can live with an additional week or two.

I don't think this is the case. The second batch should cover most of the phones, and FxTec said that it will be done a week after or so. So it should not make a big impact. But I know the feeling, cancelled my preorder and did a new one because adress change wasn't possible. Didn't knew it was relevant for the delivery date... However a week more or less does not hurt me.

At least my gmail marks it as advertisement, so a lot of people may not see the mail. It is really hard to get an estimate of preorders with all these mixed signals, but it seems that you are happy with the number of preorders. Hopefully there are enough sales for a pro2 or at least LTS.

Since there is a lot of fuzz about the things that gone wrong (especially in other forums), I wanted to point out what this project has achieved so far and how remarkable that this is. This guys refused to let people down after the MotoMod Project got hit They started a own phone manufacturing company without using Crowdfunding They designed and tested a hinge so good, that nobody worries about it at all Every feedback from prototype devices where positive, including articles from tech magazines Answered a lot of questions to the phone at the beginning of the project D