Rob. S.

You're misrepresenting what @EskeRahn did, reading it backwards. What he did was trying to objectively judge their character from thorough observation and actual evidence collected over four years, of which he also presented some, which you choose to brush aside without so much as a syllable. You're perfectly entitled to apply a different reasoning and come to a different conclusion, but to be taken serious in an actual discussion you would need to take notice of his arguments and his evidence and counter them, not just reject his conclusion (which I think is well-founded) simply by saying "I

Absolutely; the article just shows that even if everything else, like in manufacturing, goes as planned, and the manufacturer does not suffer from things like liquidity problems due to earlier obstacles, a simple delivery can take 2½ months.

That actually sounds good. After I replaced my old Pro1's USB board myself a couple of months ago with, I broke the fingerprint sensor and at least one of the buttons and probably disconnected something that communicates the slider position to determine screen orientation, so "FIngerprint sensor/back cover" seems to be exactly what I would need to get it fully working again, which I feared wouldn't be possible anymore. Would you recommend I'd send the device to have it repaired? (After the last experience I wouldn't want try again myself...)

That was a terrible comment because it included the quoted sentence. I don't understand. What I do understand perfectly is that there are deal-breaking issues for many if not most buyers, but, for a fact, me, I'm using a Pro1 X for half a year now as the only smartphone I carry and I have everything more or less functional, so there *are* such regions and carriers, and that's why there *are* people who buy those used phones, pay good money, and leave good ratings, too. That's what my comment was about. For some time to come, there will be demand for the Pro1 X even if it doesn't work

The risk is there. Still it remains to be seen. Depending on region and carrier, the Pro1 X is usable, and being the unique item that it is, it will remain desirable for a lot of people for a substantial time to come. Many want it for the keyboard alone and couldn't care less for the processor which also will be good enough in normal use for a long time to come. So in case you do get it, you will at least be able to cut your losses. Which might not be what one would wish for, but still a lot more than many other IGG projects turned out to be. Also, it is a complete wonder that F(x)tec ev

Sorry having to say so, but no. That's exactly what IGG is about and has been about right from the start. You're not guaranteed to get anything, neither a product nor a refund, no matter how huge a sum you paid and no matter what you might have had reason to believe. Hoping to eventually get your phone and then resell it (if you really don't want to make an attempt to use it) is probably still your best bet. I just sold the Pro1X I ordered in 2020, received in 2022, used for half a year as my daily driver and then replaced with another one with a different keyboard, for hardly less than I

The global supply chains, especially for tech products, have been disrupted for years. How is it today? We have traced the path of a smartphone and show where delays still occur. [...] If the device is already manufactured, as in this case, the retailer can be happy about this. His supplier in the manufacturing metropolis of Shenzhen in southern China has the product in stock and only has to send it to Europe. Both sides have known for a long time: "Only" has been extremely relativized in the past three years. Because a lot has come together. Not only was there the impact of the ini

The question mark is there, it's Alt-L! I completely overlooked that there is a fifth layer in that layout with the Alt key modifier, even if only a few keys are assigned there, and I only noticed it browsing through the .kcm files from github... Even though these FinQwerty layouts were originally designed for the Pro1 with it's "shifted" physical QWERTY layout, they are still quite functional on the Pro1 X as they're overlays for actual keys like A or LEFT_BRACKET, not for lower-level keycodes. There may still be some more minor differences to how it used to work on the Pro1 (

Made me try the "U.S. intl. with Fn dead keys for physical US QWERTY" right now, which uses the arrow keys instead. Works like a charm—except that the question mark is missing (prints the semicolon instead)...

Thanks! Just noticed that the FinQuerty layout I had chosen was for the Pro1, not Pro1X...

Is there any way to make the stylized F-key NOT hide the active app on key release? Theoretically, I get all the special characters I need on my QWERTY Pro1 X (recently replaced my QWERTZ Pro1 X with one) by using FinQwerty with the "U.S. intl. with dead keys for physical US QWERTY" layout for the Pro1. Its dead keys are entered with the F-key, though, and while that does work, the F-key also hides the active app on release, each and every time I enter any such character with it... I have no idea what the F-key is actually doing there; I guess it somehow acts as the search key, but i

Inware says "BENGAL" for my Pro1X, which is the codename for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 SM6115.

Some time ago they said, they'd ship those after they would have shipped the phones... Waiting for a spare battery myself, too (while not really feeling like disassambling the botttom part of a Pro1/Pro1X ever again)...

I can top that. September 2019 here 😉 Of course I can be more relaxed about it than others as I've been happily using a pre-owned Pro1 since February 2021, replaced half a year ago with the Pro1X that I had ordered via Indiegogo in October 2020 (and lately with an Expansys-bought QWERTY Pro1X to replace my QWERTZ phone...). Good news is, they still exist, they are delivering, and chances are that we do get our phones eventually...

EDIT: SOLD! Selling my QWERTZ Pro1X, 8/256 GB, on ebay (https://www.ebay.de/itm/204264891886, 599 €, more images there), now that I've switched to an otherwise identical QWERTY device after roughly six months of use. Happy to answer any questions per PM.

I do see the point...

The good news is that this could mean they actually have some of those batteries and that you actually could get one... I'm still waiting for the one I've ordered and paid for on IGG in 2020, shortly after ordering the Pro1X I've been using for the last six months.

Not to rule out the possibility that it's a Sailfish or phone issue, but I've frequently been having problems with MMS—ever since my first theoretically MMS capable phone... Often it was an APN setting that was missing or amiss. That said, MMS as such has started being phased out at least in parts of this world. My primary mobile carrier (Vodafone Germany) has switched off MMS on January 17. No more MMS for me.

Interesting idea. Goes beyond what I know of that stuff, unfortunately...

😄 Indeed; a bit of patience might be in order. I'm still waiting for the Pro1 (later changed to Pro1X) I ordered in Sept 2019. (I did manage to get a pre-owned Pro1 early in 2021, though, and I received another Pro1X ordered from Indiegogo in Oct 2020 about half a year ago, which I've been using since then...)

Wife with FP3 (plus easily added FP3+ camera upgrade) here, too; excellent device (stock Android with exemplary update/upgrade service, though thinking about moving to an ungoogled alternative ROM). If it wasn't for the keyboard, that would be what I'd use, too. FP with hardware keyboard would have been be the greatest... I had been hoping for a bit of that originally from Fxtec... but that would inevitably have been clunkier and even more expensive.

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That is a really interesting observation. And this points towards software/firmware and not hardware! I mean the most likely common denominator is that it works when not switching bands. So it could really be the band-switching that is flawed! Unfortunately I can report that while the Pro1X is rarely switching band at all when on Vodafone around here, it still loses connection frequently, every few minutes for long enough durations to prevent normal usage. The only good thing is that the LTE Discovery workaround mostly works for me. (And that mobile Wifi routers exist, for that m

I can only add that for me, in Germany, with either Vodadone or T-Mobile as the carrier (the third of three German carriers, Telefónica/O2, may be a different story, I have no such SIM card to try), the device is usable for both telephony and mobile internet access with some but no too severe connectivity issues, at least since I've been running the LTE Discovery app in "No-LTE cycle" mode. (Until I installed LTE Discovery I used to carry a mobile Wifi router with VoWifi enabled on the phone, which I still sometimes do and which of course makes for an even better and actually quite perfec

Thanks everyone! Found it. Unlocked bootloader. Should have checked (and re-locked) before spending the better half of Sunday to set the phone up 😉 With the perspective of moving to LineageOS sooner or later, I guess I'll just leave it unlocked for now...