F(x)tec on Verizon?

[Hook 3,016]

38 minutes ago, PlutoStark said:

Just a heads up to everyone on here. I haven't been using my Pro1 but I'm on Verizon and faced many of the same issues you've all brought up in this thread.

 

Recently I picked up a Surface Duo and was having the same issues (outbound text works, inbound doesn't, etc), and a Verizon tech had us chat in and request "CDMA-LESS" activated on our accounts. This took me 5 minutes and suddenly everything started working perfectly. I moved my SIM to my Pro1 today to see if it improved things and it appears I'm sending/receiving SMS/MMS and all that without any special modifications. Just an FYI if any of you want to try it as well and report back.

 

Happy Pro1'ing!

 

Would appreciate a little more detail.  DId you "Chat In" to the Verizon Tech and he/she then put in the request for you or did a Verizon tech have you chat in somewhere else to make the request. I'm not 100% clear how to reproduce what you did. I know of several Verizon techs I have talked to they have never brought up "CDMA-less activation" although it might just be becoming a thing as EOL for CDMA approaches.

Appreciate the information.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Hook

[PlutoStark 4]

13 minutes ago, Hook said:

 

Would appreciate a little more detail.  DId you "Chat In" to the Verizon Tech and he/she then put in the request for you or did a Verizon tech have you chat in somewhere else to make the request. I'm not 100% clear how to reproduce what you did. I know of several Verizon techs I have talked to they have never brought up "CDMA-less activation" although it might just be becoming a thing as EOL for CDMA approaches.

Appreciate the information.

I used the chat on the Verizon website and said "Hey, I have a new phone I'm trying to use and having difficulty sending/receiving SMS/MMS. I spoke with a Sr. Verizon Tech online and they told me to ask you to enable "CDMA-LESS" on my account."

 

They quickly agreed and within 30 seconds I had SMS rolling in that wasn't received before.

 

Hopefully that clears it up a bit. I know it sounds rather nebulous but that's the approach I took. Happy to answer any more questions if you have them.

[EskeRahn 5,459]

3 hours ago, PlutoStark said:

Verizon Tech online and they told me to ask you to enable "CDMA-LESS" on my account."

Awesome if a 'simple' remedy like this does the trick.

[Sempervivum 0]

Many thanks to Windraver for the January 27 post regarding activation with Verizon.

I was dreading the prospect of facing what appears to be, from some comments, a problem-ridden process. Finally worked up the courage to go in yesterday (11-12-2020). I had printed Windraver's detailed instructions, and brought them with me. The Verizon tech provided moral support while I did it myself. She hadn't done anything like this before, so I understand that she didn't want to be responsible if something got screwed up. It went smoothly, and everything is working well. Whew! Cannot thank Windraver enough.

[Gene 2]

 

I have tried everything to get my SMS messaging problem fixed. Nothing worked until I did what PlutoStark suggested and used the Verizon messaging system on verizonwireless.com to request they enable the "CDMA-LESS" option on my phone number. They made the change, and the problem was immediately fixed. 

It may be that this was a cumulative issue, and all the other steps like choosing "LTE Only" and enabling the VoLTE & other options were a part of the solution, but enabling the "CDMA-Less" option was either the solution, or the last step to the solution. Either way, I am sending and receiving texts on Verizon. 

Thank you to all who contributed to solving this problem. 

[ajburr 0]

I'm definitely interested in getting the Pro1, but could anyone let me know how I would go about adding it to my Verizon account?  I just want to make sure it would be compatible.

Thanks! 😊

[EvilDNA127 39]

Here's a link to a previous discussion on the topic:

https://community.fxtec.com/topic/2133-fxtec-on-verizon/?tab=comments#comment-29352

Long story short: it appears to work with some fiddling.

[EskeRahn 5,459]

6 hours ago, EvilDNA127 said:

Here's a link to a previous discussion on the topic:

(thanks, merged the threads)

[Bones 0]

Well hell.   After having my Pro1 on Verizon for 10 months - with no problems - as of a few days ago the dreaded "Mobile Network Not Available" message suddenly appeared.  I check network settings, did a factory reset, removed/reinserted the sim card, and then took it into a local Verizon store to see if they could get the phone recognized on their network again.  The sales person was less than helpful, saying...

• "IMEI isn't recognized on Verizon"
• "A network update means you can't use the phone now...want to buy a new one?" 
• "Are you sure this phone was working on our network?"  blah, blah, blah. 

An hour of my time I'll never get back.

I popped my sim into my wife's phone, and it recognized it immediately and allows calls.  Popped it back into my phone and no dice, "Mobile Network Not Available" still.  

Any ideas, Pro1 on Verizon hive mind?  I've got the Pro1x coming in (hopefully) a few months, tho would really like to get this one working again in the meantime.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have - appreciate it!

[Hook 3,016]

22 hours ago, Bones said:

Well hell.   After having my Pro1 on Verizon for 10 months - with no problems - as of a few days ago the dreaded "Mobile Network Not Available" message suddenly appeared.  I check network settings, did a factory reset, removed/reinserted the sim card, and then took it into a local Verizon store to see if they could get the phone recognized on their network again.  The sales person was less than helpful, saying...

• "IMEI isn't recognized on Verizon"
• "A network update means you can't use the phone now...want to buy a new one?" 
• "Are you sure this phone was working on our network?"  blah, blah, blah. 

An hour of my time I'll never get back.

I popped my sim into my wife's phone, and it recognized it immediately and allows calls.  Popped it back into my phone and no dice, "Mobile Network Not Available" still.  

Any ideas, Pro1 on Verizon hive mind?  I've got the Pro1x coming in (hopefully) a few months, tho would really like to get this one working again in the meantime.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have - appreciate it!

Sadly, this is the problem with jerry-rigged solutions and putting the Pro1 on Verizon is jerry-rigging (the mule SIM which fools the network into thinking the Pro1 is a different phone).  Jerry-rigged solutions break.  I had my Pro1 working on Verizon on stock for three months and it broke.  Later, on LOS 18.1 I got it working again, but I didn't like the anxiety of knowing it could (and probably would) break again. This led me to a solution most people don't like but I have come to love.  I have a (relatively) cheap Moto G8 Power as my phone, car phone (Android Auto) and out in the world commercial apps that refuse to go landscape.  The Pro1 is a computer/PDA in my pocket with a very cheap T-Mobile SIM just for when I don't have wifi.

This is a problem with US carriers only.  Most of the rest of the world doesn't face this,  AT&T seems to be having issues now too.  The radios are all there, but the carriers insist on their approval process and a small company may not be able to do that dance. 

As for practical suggestions, I don't have much.  Try going back through the steps in the success post in this thread and see if it retakes?  If you still have the phone it was muled in, try asking for a new replacement SIM (say yours isn't working), activate it in the old phone and then doing all the swap steps again.  I am pretty sure that talking to Verizon won't accomplish anything.

Good luck.  I am very happy with my solution.  I love having a pocket computer. 😉 (  To be fair, there were a couple of other problems besides Verizon that drove me to deconvergence.  I couldn't get my Pro1 to use the car speakers and microphone for hands free.  That was just a deal breaker.)

But the bottom line is that this is a US carrier problem.  Not a Pro1 problem.

Edited August 28, 2021 by Hook

[Mysti-Que2020 20]

Recently received my pro 1x a few days ago and been tinkering with it on adjusting network settings to be able to work with Verizon.   I went down the whole list in my settings and the ones that seemed decent is CDMA/EVDO and NR.  Anything with LTE doesn't work for phone calls or messages at least for me located in Utah.   With CDMA/EVDO  network it sends messages almost instantly but of course its only 3G.  When I have NR selected its LTE or supposedly 5G now and messages take anywhere from 10-25 seconds to send. When I message through snap chat or Facebook message it seems way better which I find weird.   Not sure why that is.   Hopefully this helps out when you receive your Pro 1x 🙂

Update:

Last night and this morning my data has been slightly worse but not super bad.   About every 10 minutes or so the browser won't load or YouTube will stop but then will connect about 15-20 seconds later.   I am going to try MINT Mobile next week when I receive my Sim card and see if it's significantly better.   When I put in my IMEID to see if it's compatible with their towers it said yes and knew what kind of phone it was on their website,  so I'm crossing my fingers it will work and be an improvement from verizon

Edited August 21, 2022 by Mysti-Que2020

[Mysti-Que2020 20]

On 8/20/2022 at 10:03 PM, Mysti-Que2020 said:

Recently received my pro 1x a few days ago and been tinkering with it on adjusting network settings to be able to work with Verizon.   I went down the whole list in my settings and the ones that seemed decent is CDMA/EVDO and NR.  Anything with LTE doesn't work for phone calls or messages at least for me located in Utah.   With CDMA/EVDO  network it sends messages almost instantly but of course its only 3G.  When I have NR selected its LTE or supposedly 5G now and messages take anywhere from 10-25 seconds to send. When I message through snap chat or Facebook message it seems way better which I find weird.   Not sure why that is.   Hopefully this helps out when you receive your Pro 1x 🙂

Update:

Last night and this morning my data has been slightly worse but not super bad.   About every 10 minutes or so the browser won't load or YouTube will stop but then will connect about 15-20 seconds later.   I am going to try MINT Mobile next week when I receive my Sim card and see if it's significantly better.   When I put in my IMEID to see if it's compatible with their towers it said yes and knew what kind of phone it was on their website,  so I'm crossing my fingers it will work and be an improvement from verizon

Finally got my Mint Mobile card a few days ago and boy that made my connectivity worse!  I wasn't able to disable VoLTE with MINT and I believe that was causing my issues with calling someone and for them not hearing me.   Because through Verizon I had that enabled, it did the same thing but once I disabled VoLTE the other line was finally able to hear me.   I contacted Mint mobile and tried to guide me through how to activate,  restart sim but still nothing.   They are going to send me out a new sim card just incase but I highly doubt that's the issue because it worked perfectly fine in my unlocked s10e.   So I ended up going back to my Verizon Sim card and changed my preferred network to global,  which for me was slightly better than LTE/CDMA settings and I'm using Facebook messenger to send out sms instead of Google messenger.   I would love to hear if anyone has been having luck with Verizon or any other network in the US that are able to give us some pointers.   Crossing my fingers F(x)  sends out an firmware update or just an update in general with issues with connectivity/data to everyone pro and cons. 

[Logan 22]

I tossed my SIM card from my Pixel 2 XL into the pro1-x when it came in to check it out.  I live in the midwest, near a rural city (30k or so).  Verizon, last I checked, is the only thing that mostly works at my house (depending on where you are it might not even work).  Anyways, the por1-x worked as well or better.  I tested SMS with the default app, made and received calls (speaker, mic, and bluetooth) which all worked fine.  Since I am not ready to make this my daily driver I toss the SIM back into the Pixel 2XL.

I did not enable WiFi calling as I wanted to tested the cell network.

I left the network to whatever it defaulted to (a whole bunch of different network types as I recall) and it took 4 or 5 minutes but then things worked.  I did some basic YouTube and surfing and I'd say it worked fine.  Once I get a case on the phone I'll try more.

[Hook 3,016]

13 hours ago, Mysti-Que2020 said:

Finally got my Mint Mobile card a few days ago and boy that made my connectivity worse!  I wasn't able to disable VoLTE with MINT and I believe that was causing my issues with calling someone and for them not hearing me.   Because through Verizon I had that enabled, it did the same thing but once I disabled VoLTE the other line was finally able to hear me.   I contacted Mint mobile and tried to guide me through how to activate,  restart sim but still nothing.   They are going to send me out a new sim card just incase but I highly doubt that's the issue because it worked perfectly fine in my unlocked s10e.   So I ended up going back to my Verizon Sim card and changed my preferred network to global,  which for me was slightly better than LTE/CDMA settings and I'm using Facebook messenger to send out sms instead of Google messenger.   I would love to hear if anyone has been having luck with Verizon or any other network in the US that are able to give us some pointers.   Crossing my fingers F(x)  sends out an firmware update or just an update in general with issues with connectivity/data to everyone pro and cons. 

I'm not sure why having VoLTE would create problems with calls (and I mean that, I am not super knowledgable so I literally don't know) , but when you said you couldn't disable VoLTE, were You talking about in Android settings or using the phone menu (*#*#4636#*#*)?

Mint, like so many MNVOs now is a T-Mobile MNVO. I wonder if in your area T-Moble is relying more on a couple of the bands they've acquired that the Pro 1/ 1x don't have (e.g., band 71).

[Mysti-Que2020 20]

4 hours ago, Hook said:

I'm not sure why having VoLTE would create problems with calls (and I mean that, I am not super knowledgable so I literally don't know) , but when you said you couldn't disable VoLTE, were You talking about in Android settings or using the phone menu (*#*#4636#*#*)?

Mint, like so many MNVOs now is a T-Mobile MNVO. I wonder if in your area T-Moble is relying more on a couple of the bands they've acquired that the Pro 1/ 1x don't have (e.g., band 71).

Using the android setting only.   I haven't tried the phone menu and if I used that is there a way to disable VoLTE on mint mobile sim card?   Yeah it's super crazy at least for me when using VoLTE on Verizon.

[Hook 3,016]

2 minutes ago, Mysti-Que2020 said:

Using the android setting only.   I haven't tried the phone menu and if I used that is there a way to disable VoLTE on mint mobile sim card?   Yeah it's super crazy at least for me when using VoLTE on Verizon.

There is a VoLTE switch there. If the SIM really controls  that, you might find it grayed out, but if not you can switch it off.

[Mysti-Que2020 20]

8 minutes ago, Hook said:

There is a VoLTE switch there. If the SIM really controls  that, you might find it grayed out, but if not you can switch it off.

I went into that setting and everything is greyed out and I'm unable to switch it on or off.   If that's the setting that means the sim card from mint only uses VoLTE settings?   Sorry im not tech savvy with phones.   Maybe my phone has an connectivity issue or that's how fx pro 1x are at the moment 

[claude0001 1,340]

On 8/28/2022 at 9:24 PM, Mysti-Que2020 said:

I went into that setting and everything is greyed out and I'm unable to switch it on or off.   If that's the setting that means the sim card from mint only uses VoLTE settings? 

I think greyed-out switches usually mean that the feature is not available. This is how it looks when VoLTE is available (though it can then still be disabled in Android):

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by claude0001

[Hardiron 1]

I can't speak to Verizon, but I can speak to AT&T as well as Google Fi.

AT&T doesn't work, locks your data connection, not on approved list.

Google Fi does work, so by extension T mobile SHOULD work as well.

Located on the west coast.

 

 

 

[lg05lg 1]

Does anyone have any reports about reception and data speeds with the phone on Verizon now that Band 66 is more common?

[MrPib 31]

I have Verizon Wireless on a Flip3, and my cell# is a Google Voice number.

So I went ahead and ordered a Twigby SIM.  They're a Verizon MVNO, and I'm getting 3 months of 1gb data and unlimited voice and text for $5 a month (3 month promo, then $10 afterwards).  Winds up being $8 a month.  Added it to my Google Voice account, so both phones ring.

Used an S10+ to activate the SIM, then switched it to my Pro1-X which is running LineageOS 20.   I immedately was greeted with this text:

Hello from Twigby! The SIM card for <Twigby-assigned #> has been placed in an invalid or ineligible phone.  Please place the SIM back in a valid and eligible device.

However it seems to work fine so far -- calls/text/MMS in and out.  I saw suggestions above to go into the *#*#4636*#*#" menu and change the preferred network type to LTE Only, but I didn't do that (or any of the other suggestions).  So now I can compare the Pro1-X to the Flip3, side by side.

[bulk88 2]

Aug 2023, I can confirm an old Pro1 has internet access (4-10 mbps down on Band 13) and makes calls on Verizon post paid, and Visible (plus) MVNO. Note Visible "unlimited" legacy SIMs used VBLINTERNET APN not VZWINTERNET and had massive device compatibility problems with the whole planet of Verizon retail and generic unlocked phones. Visible legacy SIMs will be shut down Aug 2023 or Sept 2023. Note a Pro1 only had band 4, not band 66, and probably very little Carrier Aggregation support. It will never be a speed demon on VZ except at 2 am in the morning. https://specmap.sequence-omega.net/ Around me (NYC area), all AWS-3 (b66 unique channels, that are not available in B4) is Dish or ATT. So B66 and a Pro1 is meaningless for me. But in some parts of USA, TM and VZ have AWS-3/B66, so that would be bad if your phone can only use low band or PCS/B2. Very region specific.