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I think the word "neglegible" he used might be not that well chosen, but his point stands that no one should depend that much on a particular device. Let's think of alternatives. For the user that is on a tight budget but still wants/needs a real keyboard, a BT-keyboard and a simple smartphone is a cheaper alternative. Sure it is by far as convenient to carry around and use - but the functionality is there. So from that perspective what we are buying is the convenience. Thus we are (primarily) talking those willing to spend the extra money on convenience - sure there are those that will

I have it exactly he same way, And I have (until now in vain) tried to persuade them to make a firmware/software fix for that. In the simplest form, simply have a logical lesser size with 'dead' edges of user selectable size. I can not imagine that it would be hard to do, and would make both user groups happy. It would be best if they did not have to be the same in portrait and landscape, but even if the same. Let us say we choose 4mm dead zones at both edges, that would leave us with a flat LOGICAL screen of 136x60mm that is a 5.85" 20.4 : 9 with the odd 2160x952. In the advanced v

Well at the least all the whining seems (almost) limited to this thread, so it is better than having it cluttering all over other threads (IMHO)

We have seen people in here wanting it even huger before. As well as smaller. I think FxTec have done a long deliberation on the size before settling on the 6" 2:1. Already people are calling the whole real keyboard thing an attempt to return to the past, and we would have had more of that if the screen was smaller. Personally I would have preferred it smaller, but I think that would have limited their market even more to the segments of old dinosaurs (like my self). Try to think of it in a different aspect: Will the huger size wheel in more young people than loosing old dinosau

The Priv is 147 x 77.2 x 9.4 mm The Pro1 is 154 x 73.6 x 13.98 mm So really not that much bigger. It is actually substantially less wide, making it less bad for one hand operation - though still too big for my hands. On the other hand you get a full keyboard in the right direction. The price for that, the solid metal build, and the 15% larger display is that the Priv is 20% less heavy.,.

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TP=Touch panel. I do not know if you can get the TP and Display as separate units, or they come integrated from BOE, But the whole thing is available for less than $100, ( BF060Y8M-AJ0-7702 ), so if either function should fail, it is an affordable thing to change both.

Also remember that not all in this very long thread that have been talking about refunds actually have an order. Like any other site here are trolls too.

One spare part we know is already available: The Display and TP unit, as it is from Boe and is the same also used for the "Elephone U Pro" , see above also.

As you will find out, it is really hard to operate the PRO1 while it is in a pocket of some pants.... so a pocket is an alternative to a sleeve, not a case. And on the coffee thing, just eat the beans and drink the water, much simpler 😜

When the Post Master will deliver them 😉

You should consider some of the Huawei/Honor alternatives also, as the camera holes on the back matches better.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm primarily looking at feasibility. As they dismissed the hard case as a hopeless project, I want to see how good we can get it with standard components. I mean I'm not going to use say £2-300 on a custom designed leather case, that then proves to be so useless in real usage, that it ends in the bottom of a drawer. But if we can get something good DIY, then we know for sure a professional custom made could be good too. The first attempt works reasonable, but until I get some tape or the like not on the fingerprint.

One thing that people in here tend to forget is that many individual components, are not just something you send an email, and have the good two days later. So if they estimated too low, they can not just say, "oh well lets make the next batch ten times larger" (And not even mentioning the economics in that)

Yup, how many years was the galaxy fold to be launched "next year"? Five?

Would be nice. Until they do, feel free to ask, and I will try to measure. But as things are curved/smoothed it can be hard to reduce to a few relevant measurements.

Perfectly balanced, see almost at the bottom here

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So you are (now) saying that OTHER people would buy, not that MORE would buy, or?

You can get rid of it with e.g .Ctrl+Z or by Ctrl+A and Del. But yeah a bit odd. ADD: You can also click the right part of the quote line, and then Del ADD II: Actually multiple BackSpaces also works

Let us hope that it will be such a huge success, that it makes room for variants, and not one model only.... Different people, different usage patterns, different needs/wishes.

It should be remembered that they usually also claim that a newer generation is more energy efficient doing the same task. So it could have given a better stamina.

It would be nice in the notification drop down, with some 'mark as read', especially on various 'Reactions'. It seems a bit silly to have to open it to clear it. On the other hand it make a lot of sense for "Quoted" or "Mentioned" to see what it is.

Well you are assuming that no one think the Pro1 is already expensive, oh wait there are.... So your assumption does not hold, invalidating the logic... For some an additional price would be outweighed by a newer chipset, for others it would put the device out of their reach. If the total numbers sold would be higher by one variant or the other is really hard to say anything reasonably on, it will be just guessing either way.

...Once we found the phone case(s) that gives the best fit, we should be looking for flip cases for these phones that opens in the OTHER direction, that is at right edge, like e.g. a Japanese book, as these would be more likely to be usable (as mentioned earlier), and preferably with a flip of a soft material with a hard support inside, we can 'brake' to add new fold(s). ADD: Due to the base form being symmetric, and we are likely to make various cot outs anyway, We MIGHT simply use one rotated to what it was originally intended