PandaBearCorgi 3 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Hook said: I really don't get this whole "mid-range" phone stuff. Phones have hit the same technology innovation plateau that computers hit in 2005, such that Flagships up the gimmicks more than they up the innovation. In 2019, a mid-range phone is fine, except most mid-range phones have 6xx Snapdragons rather than an 835 and underwhelming screens and minimum internal memory. My wife's Pixel 2XL with the same SOC handles everything just fine. And for the kinds of productivity which presumably would make a slider keyboard attractive, the specs on this baby are serious overkill. This is a phone that might get you through the next 10 years. Support it and you may not have to wait that long for another. 😉 You make a very solid point and as the Pro1 would ultimately be a spec downgrade from my current phone and the pkb really being the only selling point for me, I come to the conclusion that I don't need a new phone and I guess I'll keep f(x)tec in mind in the future, but for now cancelling my order is the most logical step. Cheers to everybody getting the Pro1, maybe one day down the road I will join you. 1 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnnieC 115 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, mcdinner said: I don't think the E7 was hand assembled in Finland one by one. 😄 I have worked at a Nokia factory 8 years ago and the assembly was far from a fully automated process at the time. The mainboard manufacturing and testing and the final testing was mostly automated but that's about it. Most of the assembly was done by humans, a lot of them. 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, PandaBearCorgi said: You make a very solid point and as the Pro1 would ultimately be a spec downgrade from my current phone and the pkb really being the only selling point for me, I come to the conclusion that I don't need a new phone and I guess I'll keep f(x)tec in mind in the future, but for now cancelling my order is the most logical step. Cheers to everybody getting the Pro1, maybe one day down the road I will join you. But did you really have an order to cancel? Only asking cause you joined a week ago and have 2 posts, neither one thrilled about the potential buy or experience. If you just ordered recently, it's not like there's been a long wait so far either. But yeah, if higher specs is what you want most from a phone and have that already, that's totally understandable. What phone do you have out of curiosity? Would have to be pretty new already I'm guessing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnnieC 115 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The communication style of F(x)tec is similar to some of our eager but naive junior engineers who try very hard to please. They spend a lot of hours fixing problems they didn't anticipate but say nothing about it at the time because they think they will be able to finish in time but they never do. 2 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vlycop 38 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Siani_8 said: But did you really have an order to cancel? Only asking cause you joined a week ago and have 2 posts, neither one thrilled about the potential buy or experience. If you just ordered recently, it's not like there's been a long wait so far either. But yeah, if higher specs is what you want most from a phone and have that already, that's totally understandable. What phone do you have out of curiosity? Would have to be pretty new already I'm guessing? the new forum is not old at all and didn't keep registration or number of post i think. they migh be there for a long time or not, i don't thing we can check that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, vlycop said: the new forum is not old at all and didn't keep registration or number of post i think. they migh be there for a long time or not, i don't thing we can check that Ah Roger that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcdinner 375 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, AnnieC said: I have worked at a Nokia factory 8 years ago and the assembly was far from a fully automated process at the time. The mainboard manufacturing and testing and the final testing was mostly automated but that's about it. Most of the assembly was done by humans, a lot of them. Thank you for clarification! Maybe that was the reason those phones were so durable 🙂 (ecept to E7 microUsb port which died 2 times on mine ;( ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnnieC 115 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, mcdinner said: Thank you for clarification! Maybe that was the reason those phones were so durable 🙂 (ecept to E7 microUsb port which died 2 times on mine ;( ) None of the Nokia phone assembly processes were fully automated at the time, it just wasn't feasible financially. There were very strict instructions for the assembly and strict quality control all the time but sometimes they went a little too far with cost optimization 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magicafternoon 38 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, illie-vanilli said: For now I'm going to stick with the info Erik gave so far and assume that the shipments of the first batch are already in transit to any of the fulfillment warehouses. Really curious to see how many pre-order customers will get the device in this first batch! Keep in mind that some of those early pre-order folks may not be active on the forums, so we may not get device received info for a while anyway. For those reading, if you ordered the phone after early August 2019 please be aware that your phone may not be part of the first batch of devices sent out. Erik confirmed previously that they are shipping phones in the order that payment was received. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,350 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, agent008 said: Remember the Xperia Ray? Now that was a nice form factor. If we are to go without a qwery, that size was the best in my opinion. A sleek, thin and small, comfortable handset. Too bad nobody makes them like that anymore. If there was a top-of-midrange handset like that today (Snapdragon 6xx, 2 or 3GB RAM, 64GB internal storage and microsd slot), it could well be my second phone. Ah Ray! Yes Indeed, very elegant, got one lying around somewhere.... I loved the whole idea of SonyEricsson in 2011making four specwise (almost) completely identical flagship phones, including display resolution. Where the whole thing was just scaled. There was Pro, the real stuff with a keyboard Neo, The Pro without a keyboard Ray, a compact variant of the Neo Arc, a huge variant of the Neo I remember a friend of mine got the Arc and we all ridiculed him when he placed the humongous book sized thing to his ear. Today its 63mm would be considered a super compact.... See e.g. here 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,350 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, vlycop said: the new forum is not old at all and didn't keep registration or number of post i think. they migh be there for a long time or not, i don't thing we can check that The post count seem to have been transferred, it is the reputation-count that have been cleared. And we were all marked as joined on Oct 24. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,988 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, magicafternoon said: Keep in mind that some of those early pre-order folks may not be active on the forums, so we may not get device received info for a while anyway. I am one of the Indiegogo preorderers. I have received my payment request on the 1st of August at 9:56AM and payed it two minutes later (this is the arrival of my receipt mail). When I receive my unit, I will write a message on this forum (so when I will arrive to home and I hope I will not travel that day). Theoretically, that info may be good for some estimations... Edited October 30, 2019 by VaZso 2 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvissteinjr 355 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, magicafternoon said: Keep in mind that some of those early pre-order folks may not be active on the forums, so we may not get device received info for a while anyway. EU order with Indiegogo coupon. You'll be hearing from me if necessary. I've been waiting for keyboard hardware from these guys for a good while now. I'm a patient man. 4 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PandaBearCorgi 3 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Siani_8 said: But did you really have an order to cancel? Only asking cause you joined a week ago and have 2 posts, neither one thrilled about the potential buy or experience. If you just ordered recently, it's not like there's been a long wait so far either. But yeah, if higher specs is what you want most from a phone and have that already, that's totally understandable. What phone do you have out of curiosity? Would have to be pretty new already I'm guessing? I've had my order in since Aug 2, I pre-ordered before then and I've been following the phone for a while. I don't get involved in forums much these days, so you're correct I don't have many posts. They've offered me a free case and headphones if I don't cancel my order, which is amusing on account of the fact that pre-orders were already supposed to get a free case and headphones. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, PandaBearCorgi said: I've had my order in since Aug 2, I pre-ordered before then and I've been following the phone for a while. I don't get involved in forums much these days, so you're correct I don't have many posts. They've offered me a free case and headphones if I don't cancel my order, which is amusing on account of the fact that pre-orders were already supposed to get a free case and headphones. Are you serious!? That's nuts. Yes, indeed they are supposed to come with the pre-orders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bollstedt 2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, PandaBearCorgi said: They've offered me a free case and headphones if I don't cancel my order, which is amusing on account of the fact that pre-orders were already supposed to get a free case and headphones. They should offer the case and the headphones for everyone as compensation for all these delays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anonim001 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Wait... I thought that all pre-orders get hp and a case - did that change too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enPfzr4v 239 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, anonim001 said: Wait... I thought that all pre-orders get hp and a case - did that change too? Only if you placed your pre-order before a certain date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, abielins said: Only if you placed your pre-order before a certain date. What date was that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik 1,487 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Siani_8 said: What date was that? Any preorder placed before the 24th of June, regardless of payment date. For anyone else, our accessories will be on the store shortly after all preorders are shipped. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galaxy 22 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 10 hours ago, _headcrash_ said: For my Padora I had to wait a year. You are kidding, right? As an early IGG backer of the Keyboard MotoMod I am waiting _years_ for this company to deliver me something I can use in my day to day routine. A year is nothing 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Erik said: Any preorder placed before the 24th of June, regardless of payment date. For anyone else, our accessories will be on the store shortly after all preorders are shipped. Hmmm guess I missed it by a couple of weeks. Don't remember it being advertized like that or would have ordered earlier. Well considering there still is no pic of the final version of the case and I had a custom leather pouch made anyway, I guess it's no big thing. Edit: Although I do agree with the other poster that all pre-orders should have them at this point as a courtesy at the least. Edited October 30, 2019 by Siani_8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sero 89 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Siani_8 said: Hmmm guess I missed it by a couple of weeks. Don't remember it being advertized like that or would have ordered earlier. Well considering there still is no pic of the final version of the case and I had a custom leather pouch made anyway, I guess it's no big thing. Edit: Although I do agree with the other poster that all pre-orders should have them at this point as a courtesy at the least. If I'm honest, I very much doubt the case and headphones are going to be anything to write home about... Would probably want to get a third party pouch and/or skin anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vlycop 38 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Erik said: Any preorder placed before the 24th of June, regardless of payment date. For anyone else, our accessories will be on the store shortly after all preorders are shipped. Wait what ? I preordered in August, it was still written pre-order everywhere, and it was stated before that all pre-order went with both a case and headphones. Pre-order officially stop when you order, so at payments time. Please confirme soon, as this isn't what i payed for 😞 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Serolfic said: If I'm honest, I very much doubt the case and headphones are going to be anything to write home about... Would probably want to get a third party pouch and/or skin anyway. Yeah I had someone on Etsy make me a handmade leather pouch on with the Pro1 dimensions. It's really nice and I'll most likely be using that. Plus, based on most early reviewers, other than EskeRahn, it's kind of a stretch to reach those middle keys and can't see that being any easier with a plastic case on so I'd rather use it naked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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