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But is that not what it says in the quote? 30 days free, and then you have to buy the (larger) Hub+ package to continue using it without ads.

it is really hard for us to evaluate, when we do not know the cost in making an alternative layout. Sure number 2 is just as cheap as any layout, but what is the price of number 1? That cost has to be covered by additional sales of either devices or extra keyboards the users changes...

If you like an trust the BB app, why not just pay?

I bet they do combined shipping... ;-p How many I will buy depends on the future of the whole project. If it is the end of the line for qwerty sliders I expect to buy more than if there is a good chance for a pro2, pro3, ... I think I will start with just two....

That seem to be the philosophy of Fxtec. Do the needed drivers, and add only device related stuff (like controlling the keyboard backlight, slider action and keyboard layout), that are not generically included in Android. Personally I think they should not even have made special apps for the Logo-key. Though the default apps like gmail is clearly not optimized for landscape well, there ARE third party apps that does work well in landscape and with keyboard. So why try to re-invent he wheel? IMHO a waste of their development money... The chance of it being better than say K9 I see as minima

Added recommendation of Termux, based on this thread.

Yup, the risk of them having holes are less than any home brew you, I or Fxtec might cook up. And if they were deliberately stealing they would only need to be caught doing so once to be dead... But SURE the NSA and similar in other countries have access to everything on our devices (if not they would be incompetent). It is bad, but we just have to accept it or stay off line. I have no illusions of real security. Big brother IS watching you.

It sounds to me like you might be sending from a mail-server that does not present itself in a proper way to the receiving server. A guess could be "Helo Reject" Personally I have had issues like that where benign incoming mails where rejected by my hosting provider's spam server. If might be that the fxtec mail-server got a strict setup too. Try to send from a different mail-server, e.g. a gmail account, to check that it goes through.

I do get your concern, but as I too is slightly paranoid, I do not see why we would trust build in software on a TCL device more than a third party app? Remember that BB as a brand is now just licensed to be used by Chinese TCL. I trusted the BB brand more while they were delivered by a Canadian company, as I trust the political environment they are operating in more in Canada. I like to believe that my BB Priv was (well: is) slightly more secure than the pure Android, And definitely more secure than my Samsung S8- that comes with a truck-load of bloat that is marked as system, and requires

$10 in shipping... Lucky you, I was charged €24 (~$27) to Denmark.... :-o See Erik's post earlier, they send to US-customers from a "Fulfilment centre" in the US.

It is a new odd bug, that is related to the approval system. IF a keymaster approves a post, but do NOT make a comment/reply in the thread, the approved comments are in an odd stealth state, until a keymaster make a comment (Yes, seriously!!) (That is why some might have seen some odd short XXXX-like comments from me, as I try to remember to make a dummy comment after approve, and then quickly Delete it, as this miraculously cleans up the mess....) ...I certainly(!) hope that this will be fixed with the new forum software

Termux works in Landscape aka Horizontal on a Pro1, yes. The other questions I can not answer, sorry.

Well I see it from another angle: The more we can get to buy a Pro1, the higher the chance there will be a Pro2, Pro3,.... when we want to upgrade...

Tried to install, and can see that say Ctrl+A or Alt+1 acts the same way as softkey followed by physical key, so Ctrl and Alt are supported. Though physical "Esc" jumps to the homescreen (where e.g. softkey Esc, just above the physical, followed by D clears to EOL) ADD: I have suggested fxtec to make a user-setting requiring a long press of Esc to jump to the homescreen.

With the Pro1 yes (preproduction unit) but not with SSH. Just opened Termux in the Android Market, and some of the screenshot provided are in landscape... I will try to install

Well sure, but the program would still need to know that say "Ctrl" exists to have prepared some sensible specialised action. I mean beyond the general stuff like control navigation, marking and cut&paste within a textbox provided by the Android OS.

What you are requesting is basically customs fraud. So even if they were willing to do so, I highly doubt that they would write it out in public.

Yes only time will tell, but I'm sure that it is only us as the most eager ones that have bought it from pre-orders. I'm sure there is a large group that will wait for the reception of it, and most likely a much larger group that never heard of the Pro1 but could be interested once they learn of the existence (so help spread the message...). From an egoistic perspecitve: The higher sales the Pro1 gets, the higher profit FxTec will make, and thus the higher chance of them producing a Pro2, Pro3,..... thus providing us with devices I can upgrade to later on...

Yup. It is the same story with phone sized devices. You basically can not buy a phone with flagship specs anymore, only phablets! And there have been no QWERTY-slider with anything close to flagship spec since the SonyEricsson Pro. in 2011. Thus the request for a flagship speced PHONE with a slider keyboard (that I would prefer) is further away from reality. BUT if the Pro1 get a smashing success, we just MIGHT get successors, and hopefully one of them would be shrunken to 5¼" display, and thus to phone size - and still have good specs!. Personally I do not get why manufacturers thi

That was my hope too. But I guess there are too many money in planned obsolescence to allow for a user and environmental friendly idea like Ara to fly... ;( One principal 'design flaw' with the Ara was that there were no modules that went all the way through the frame (or attached to the top). That would have allowed for better cameras, without them giving the device a huge bump.

Thanks for this clarification :) Maybe something like that would be beneficial as some 'fine prints' on all orders to the US. (And similar to any other country where you will have a national "fulfilment centre")

Oh sure it is wonderful to be able to have the keys in many ways! BUT we should be honest and accept that the majority of apps out there are only optimised for touch, And for many the only keyboard 'support' there is, is what Android provides, allowing us to navigate and select with the keys. Even a build in app like Settings, well it technically DO work with keys, but it is way easier to do almost all in it by touch, e.g. changing "Display [item] Size" under Display, I would first need to select the right part with Shift+Tab, then the slider by Up-Arrow, and finally move the slider with t

Let's keep our fingers crossed that it will be fixed with new forum software...

He he. Strictly the "Relay" was way closer to an "S3 mini". See e.g. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=5125&idPhone3=5033 I think his point was exactly that there were no keyboard phones with 'flagship' specs, And by "S4" was referring to the "Galaxy S4" not the "Snapdragon S4" chipset.

Yup. And that one not really globally available. I think the last attempt was the SonyEricsson (Neo) Pro the year before. Actually SE had a really interesting idea there in 2011. They released four spec-wise identical devices, including all with 854x480, that (almost) only differed in scale of display and device. The compact Ray, the normal Neo, The keyboard variant of the Neo called Pro and finally the then ridiculously humongous Arc (I remember people laughing when someone used that huge plate for calls - today the 63mm would rank it a super compact...) The Ray was really elegant, I u