silversolver 849 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Zamasu said: Yes, and now read my whole post, specifically this part: " Support seems to just be wrong, No way the phones are due to arrive at the end of this month considering nobody received tracking yet. End of next month doesn't mean much either. " We should've gotten tracking codes yesterday if they were to arrive before the weekend. It'll take at least 3 more weeks for the phones to arrive. Please don't make people think they'll get them tomorrow. Arrive is a matter of where. I don't think arrive at people's houses was what was meant. I think arrive at the distribution warehouses to be sent to customers, and that's where tracking codes are generated. I never meant to imply that people would have them by the weekend, only, for example, that people might start seeing tracking codes by the weekend. EDIT: I think part of the challenge in communication is that people forget that not everyone knows what they know. They are so deeply involved in this logistics process that statements which are clear to them are confusing or misleading to others. Edited November 28, 2019 by silversolver clarification 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zamasu 258 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, silversolver said: I think part of the challenge in communication is that people forget that not everyone knows what they know. They are so deeply involved in this logistics process that statements which are clear to them are confusing or misleading to others. That's not the direction I would go with "not everyone knows what they know". But we'll see if what you said was true if the devices will be in customers hands in 1 to 2 weeks, or if they're still to be sent and people need to wait for 3 weeks. EDIT: Arrive is a matter of where. I don't think arrive at people's houses was what was meant. I think arrive at the distribution warehouses to be sent to customers, and that's where tracking codes are generated. What we know from Erik is that the phones hadn't left the factory yet last Tuesday ("we know a batch of stock is leaving the factory sometime this week"). For them to arrive anywhere this month would mean they decreased the shipping time from 2 and a half weeks to a mere 3 days. And that Erik didn't know they were shipped yet, so more like 2 days. I don't know how you can seriously believe that to be true enough to say it's highly likely. Edited November 28, 2019 by Zamasu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raksura 270 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Any chance the reason why they keep having to delay is that whatever transport they've booked is contingent on other bookings being made so that the journey is as profitable as possible for the shipping company, hence the delays being imposed until that point is reached? It would make sense, but I would be surprised if such deals did not include some kind of deadline at which point shipping has to occur regardless. Again, that's pure speculation since we have not been getting that kind of details so far. 43 minutes ago, silversolver said: Glumreaper posted [...] "I got one reply just now asking if I was sure since devices are now shipping, I took it to mean that the shipping of devices started, i.e., pointing out that the first batch proves that devices will arrive eventually, and not that the second batch actually started shipping. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zamasu 258 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Raksura said: Any chance the reason why they keep having to delay is that whatever transport they've booked is contingent on other bookings being made so that the journey is as profitable as possible for the shipping company, hence the delays being imposed until that point is reached? It would make sense, but I would be surprised if such deals did not include some kind of deadline at which point shipping has to occur regardless. Again, that's pure speculation since we have not been getting that kind of details so far. Not saying I know any more about that, but I think that's how the cheaper shipment options generally work. Just pool together a bunch of stuff and send it once. But even then, this is from China just after the 11th which is a huge event, and Black Friday now happening. Any shipment company probably has enough customers to choose from, I don't think any would be waiting for more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enPfzr4v 239 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Look at this tweet! I feel attacked 😂 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ksal95 227 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The light at the end of the tunnel is for our old phones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shilor 71 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) The whole discussion if they already shipped or not sounds to me like reading tea leaves. The fact is, we really don't know. 🙄 I still fully trust Fxtec and I am willing to wait for my Pro1 even longer.. essential is that we get our Pro1 at all. But.. a little more communication would go a long way. Team Fxtex, the PR-guy.. just someone, please... once a week.... just turn on the Selfie camera on your Pro1 and film yourself, talk for2-4 minutes about current delays and estimated arrivals .. or tell us if something wet wrong and things take longer as planned (even if you have to stay somewhat vague), or tell us that you got to work on some bugs, or just make a 30 second Video and say "everything is according to plan" ....... and upload the whole thing on Vimeo or YouTube. You don't even have to edit that. (which saves a lot of time) It is not that hard, but it will make everybody calm down (including me) and have clearer understanding if we have to wait. Edited November 28, 2019 by Shilor 8 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shilor 71 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, ksal95 said: The light at the end of the tunnel is for our old phones I agree But if the Pro1 would hurry up a bit on its journey to my doorstep, it would be appreciated. 😉😁 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dreamflasher 120 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The question is, at the end of the tunnel, will there be heaven or hell... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Shilor said: Team Fxtex, the PR-guy.. just someone, please... once a week.... just turn on the Selfie camera on your Pro1 and film yourself, talk for2-4 minutes about current delays and estimated arrivals .. or tell us if something wet wrong and things take longer as planned I think it is no need of a selfie camera or any cameras... No need of a camera, no need of watch what was recorded, no need to record it again if something happens and no need to edit the video. ...but a few words written as update of facts by regular basis would be very welcome. Edited November 28, 2019 by VaZso 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I hope at the end of the tunnel that light is not the train itself but Fxtec team holding a bunch of Pro1 leading towards our units packaged near them (that is why they are in the dark). 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EskeRahn 5,453 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, VaZso said: I hope at the end of the tunnel that light is not the train itself but Fxtec team holding a bunch of Pro1 leading towards our units packaged near them (that is why they are in the dark). 🙂 Or all the dots we see in the image, are them testing the flash LED of the next batch of Pro1... 😂 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, EskeRahn said: Or all the dots we see in the image, are them testing the flash LED of the next batch of Pro1... 😂 Or everyone of us with our old phones running towards them to grab our Pro1 being in next batch. 😄 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epninety 87 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 hours ago, abielins said: "The Pro1 isn't just there for your destination; it's there for your journey." Presumably fx have decided its getting a bit quiet and dull, so they thought they'ed **** off their customers just a little bit more? 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
damion 60 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Well my cosmo communicator turned up and I opened today. I'm looking forward to the pro1... 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silversolver 849 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, damion said: Well my cosmo communicator turned up and I opened today. I'm looking forward to the pro1... I took it to be more of a UMPC than a phone.....was I correct in your estimation? I have not touched one, but you have. Edited November 29, 2019 by silversolver clarification 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchattengestaIt 559 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Twitter was always the place for some weird philosopher with a Pro 1 in its hand. Or maybe a teenager in its puberty, I wouldn't be able to distinguish them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A Dude 99 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, silversolver said: I took it to be more of a UMPC than a phone.....was I correct in your estimation? I have not touched one, but you have. @damion I second that. Would be very interested in your "first impressions", as I was afraid that the Cosmo would be a little cumbersome for "normal phone" stuff, because you always need to open it with two hands - even for a quick peek at GMaps. Edited November 29, 2019 by A Dude 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_DW_ 628 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 10 hours ago, dreamflasher said: The question is, at the end of the tunnel, will there be heaven or hell... or another tunnel.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netman 1,424 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, _DW_ said: or another tunnel.... hopefully not carpal tunnel 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siani_8 105 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Great now my Pro1 is in a tunnel somewhere. Is there additional customs checks in this tunnel? 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Siani_8 said: Great now my Pro1 is in a tunnel somewhere. Is there additional customs checks in this tunnel? I think no but there may be a toller who is holding the light at the end of the tunnel... or there are... trolls everywhere. 😄 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_DW_ 628 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) There is no need to worry the end of the other tunnel joins the start of the first one. Edited November 29, 2019 by _DW_ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epninety 87 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, _DW_ said: There is no need to worry the end of the other tunnel joins the start of the first one. It often feels more like the end of the first tunnel joins the start of the first one, and the light at the end is the approaching train, going round, and round, and round .... Edited November 29, 2019 by epninety 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaZso 1,998 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, epninety said: It often feels more like the end of the first tunnel joins the start of the first one, and the light at the end is the approaching train, going round, and round, and round .... No - if the first tunnel joins the start of the first one, then the light at the tunnel is probably your own back. So most likely the phone is behind you or just have received it and that is your smile or traveling on that train or... ...should we wake up? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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