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Try an app like KeyEvent to see if it is the physical key that isen't working or just the logical function that for some reason isn't active. if it is the physical key, does it 'feel' normal clicking it? If not some pocket lint might have gotten under it blocking the action. if it feels normal it could be an electrical failure like the plug somehow loosened.

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It is really sad that some of the qwertZ are so extremely delayed. But remember that they clearly stated that it is not the order date but payment date that matters for the priority orders are served.

Interesting 😁 According to their page that should not be supported, the flag they mention here is set to false Have you tried if it works with 11 too? So would be really interesting if they could make a ROM that put ALL the slider/hw-kbd stuff down in the "original vendor implementation" layer, that would make it even more open to alternative distributions and future Android updates.

We have heard Google for YEARS saying that with the NEXT release, updates will be easier.... We are yet to see it actually happen. But will be great for the consumers if it becomes reality.

I would be surprised if flashing that without a wipe is enough. But you could try support, if they are not too busy. I'm sure they got a copy of it somewhere.

Another option would be sort of the inverse of the old Nokia having only the centre part slide up as display. We could have only the centre part stay down as a keyboard. But again different people different needs. I for one would not like a larger keyboard than the Pro1, for others it is too small...

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Have a look in this old thread

Hmm I think we are drifting away from the Astro Glide with the last few comments. I bet there are better threads for these discussions.

Carrier in Denmark (would be smarter if they had said "Sim 1")

Just tried it on AICP-Q, and the option is there - though it does not work.

I think you are right, but I do not know the protocol enough to tell if it would be possible to send the data-part of an MMS over WiFi???

Just tried, and as I expected, the answer was: no. Sorry: I tested on AICP-Q not official 17.1

So no one can blame them for not being backwards compatible 😉 But it will obviously be a big plus for (literally) older users, (They have moved a few secondary functions though)

I would say that most of them are not suited for the languages suggested.... It's not a matter of how they could have made the print, it is more fundamental that most national keyboard layouts expects (at the least) two letter keys right of the L, and one right of the P, and they can not do that with the current keys. They would need to squeeze in an extra column, and cut the current enter into two as the least possible change. And they would need two columns extra to get close to what we are used to. But obviously that would be at the cost of minor keys, so pros&cons. Even for real and

I too am tempted to support it, just as it is nice to see more keyboard phones out there. But apart from the mechanism, that I would like to hear actual feedback on first, there is a principle issue with the number of columns of keys making it unsuitable for all the languages using more national letters than A-Z. Not to mention that ordinary punctuation also have to be pushed to unconventional places due to the lack of keys. Of course that is the price to pay for the larger keys, so pros&cons.

I hope you are right. That could also be the explanation - From the user feedbacks in here people are not complaining on hardware issues with the keyboards, so it seems unlikely that they would want to change it.

Perhaps they bought enough of qwerty for stock an limited amount of qwertZ and then the block could be Corona related, if the company prioritise other larger customers or even has gone under. Could be some rights things that prevent them from changing to someone else, ..... the possibilities are endless. And your guesses are as good as mine.

I'm totally puzzled why the qwertZ keyboards have been unavailable for so long. I have several wild guesses but no knowledge.

There is a LOT of difference in hand-carrying a few devices through, or to have a third party factory doing everything from scratch to send. I would not be at all surprised if these ten were produced before the campaign even started, and only needed some final touch like packing was left. Or that they just had ten new blue shells and moved over the interiors from ten Pro1s manually. (But I'm guessing here) (Note that they even got different prints/engravings on them)

(This is a very limited batch of just 10 devices)

Again different people different needs. You could say that a portrait keyboard lands in between a fake keyboard and a landscape keyboard. Having some of the pros and cons of each. So for those doing a modest amount of typing it could be an optimal compromise. Those doing a small amount would be better of with just a fake keyboard to save space and weight, and the few of us that use the devices primarily for texting, we can go for landscape keyboards. One of the drawbacks of a landscape keyboard is that it is virtually impossible to use one handed, so we have to fall back to use th

Ford T ? 😏

Oh indeed let us have variety, the more the merrier. There are no single model that are ideal for everyone. Just as those seldom using a keyboard should keep on using their slabs. Different users different usage patterns and needs. 🙂